Oh man, I already ordered the pill form, guess next time it will be the powder.

It is easier in the pill form but cheaper in bulk.
A thermo I make
200g Tyrosine
100g caffeine
8g Yohimbine
8g Guggsterone
Dosing 1/4 teaspoon 3 to 4 x a day.
All avalable at 1fast400
That makes a crap load of product.

Jag

Jag, Im confused isn't 8 grams of yohimbine a little much? Or is this lasting more than a day?
EDIT: now that I read the link you gave earlier, Im thinking you meant 8 mg, go ahead laugh at me.

I am mixing 8 grams of Y into 300 grams of other powder (tyrosine and caffeine).
So a 1/4 t dose is about 2.5mg
That recipie lasts about 5 months!
Jag

Yeah I see now, guess 100g of caffiene a day wouldn't be good either.

What's this I read about people having to go to the bathroom (#2) when taking Y?

Don't know about that?
Maybe that is why it works for weight loss!

Jag

So what should I do about donating blood? I have never donated before, should stop the EC or YC a couple days before donating, what's the opinion on this? or should I just not donate?

Yohimbine
the Y does "disperse" but doesn't dissolve in water. You have to shake the bottle before dosing, actually dispensing the crystals in the water. Y will however dissolve in Alcohol. I have a 5th of everclear 190 proof grain alcohol. I made a batch with that. You cannot take a 5ml "shot" straight.You have to add a 5 ml dose to a 1/2 cup of water to be able to stand the taste.
The next batch I may dissolve some in a little Everclear then add it to 500ml of water.
Anyway dosing as follows
1g of the Y in 500 ml
1g/500ml =.002g per ml or 2mg per ml.
3ml would = 6mg of Yohimbine
Jag

I recently asked the Canadian Blood Services. They said 3 days with no Ephedrine before donating. Dunno about Y.

I want to know what I can use to loose my last 20 pounds. They seem impossible to shed. About a month ago I finished my last bottle of xenadrine RFA and now I don't know what to use. I was reading on this thread about Vasopro Ephedrine HCl but wanted some more info on it. I follow a low carb, pretty much just healthy eating habit and I am currently doing the Si6 DVD's.

I have tried a few ones since my last xenadrine and they are all a waste of money. I need the energy & fat burning...any advice? Thanks.

My job has recently started randomly giving drug tests. Would ephedrine hcl show up as meth? Is it illegal to use it as a weight loss supp. or just illegal to sell it as a weight loss supp.? Should I just say I am taking it for breathing issues? Would Y show up as something? Lots of questions today, but yes, I would tell them exactly what I am taking I just don't want to get in trouble for saying I take before my workouts.

Seriuosly, I think we need more detailed questions, do you exercise?

Ephedrine is a legit decongestant. Y is sometimes prescribed for low blood pressure, (as it raises bp), and is also sometimes prescribed for male ED. They are both legal, OTC medicines/supplements in most states of the USA as far as I know, so check what your company's policy is on health supplements and if there are any that are not allowed. Maybe get it in writing...

Ok so after reading pages 1-14 in this thread, I still have confusion as to when these supplements should be taken. 12 weeks on, four weeks off, five days a week and weekends off, etc. I was just wondering if it would work if I only took HydroxyCut, which is what I have right now, only on the days that I work out. This would be around three or four times a week. So in better words, probably every other day. I don't know if it will have the same effect since it won't be taken at a consistent rate or whatever. hmmm..

Ok then, any help would be good as to when I should take it.

Also, which pills are the best? Hydroxy Cut, Ripped Fuel, Xenadrine, etc.

Maybe someone should make a survey thingy because I sure as heck am not too sure how to do one yet!

I am really getting amazed as to how fascinating all of this stuff is. I can be here at my laptop for hours on end just reading through these forums.

All of you people are such great help...

Desiree

I don't use any of the fatburner blends. I make my own homemade stack of one part Ephedrine HCL to 10 parts Caffeine.

I really don't pay any attention to cycling off and on. There's no real reason to do it, although I do give myself a month off every once in a while to switch it up, and so I can give blood (gotta have Ephedrine out of your body for 3 days before you give blood).

This guy has a TON of info on the EC or ECA stack: http://www.drumlib.com/

In Canada, Ephedrine HCL comes in 8mg tablets, so three tablets (24 mg Ephedrine) with two Wake Ups (200 mg caffeine) is approximately a "standard" dose. Because you're making it yourself, you can cut the dose waaaaay down to begin with - like, one Ephedrine tab and a half a wakeup, or a cup of coffee or tea. See how you feel, and titrate up the dose for comfort and effectiveness.

From what I've read, the Ephedrine-free fatburners don't really do anything.

I tried forskolin, and it didn't do a THING. And I didn't like synephrine AT ALL.

My .02.

Thanks built!

Eesh, I can't believe someone thought you were in a man in that other post! lol.

I guess they hadn't looked at your profile

thank you so much for your response.

Can you just buy ephedrin at GNC or something. it just sounds weird how you can buy it alone when there's so much bad hype about it. Also, for the caffeine, do you take caffeine pils, or just drink alot of coke? lol. I highly doubt the coke part though

thanks for the site link. it's a little confusing, but I'm still reading!

Take care
-des