Originally Posted by dutchboy

I think the key point of low carbing is being in ketosis. This doesn't require zero carb.

Ketosis does wonderfull things to your body. For one thing; you clean up the 'junk-protein' that builds up in your cells as you age, as the body starts looking for dysfunctional proteins to protect muscle tissue (google for CMA). This build-up of junk-protein is one of the central symptoms of ageing. And fresh cancercells seem to be also recognised by the body as dysfunctional protein. Isn't that great? Burning your cancer for energy?

Next: burning fat in the mitochondria produces considerably less ROS than burning glucose. The ros-damage to mitochondria is one of the elements of ageing. That is why older people have less energy.

Ketosis stimulates (almost doubles) the production of glutathione, the mother of all antioxidants, the master detoxifier, and the key to a strong immune system.

Ketosis makes the body think you are starving and this triggers survival mechanisms like suirt-1 (search pubmed for suirt-1 for more background). Mice on low calorie diets can increase their lifespan by 30%. It is thought that it is the effect of ketosis that does this- not the hunger.

Some experts believe insulin is an ageing hormone. Animals that face a food shortage postpone reproduction untill better times. This essentially increases their life span. It is believed insulin plays a key role here.

Advanced Glycation Endproducts (AGE's) are the result of high bloodsugar and gives you wrinkles and stifness. Proteins that are covered with glucose (meillard-reaction) tend to form 'bridges' and become less flexible. That is why old people are stiff.

So, low carbing / ketogenic dieting goes way beyond weight management. My list is by no means complete. But I am convinced that keeping bloodsugar stable, insulin low and being in ketosis most of the time, is a key to the fountain of youth. I don't mind ageing, but I intend to die healthy and fit (deo volente).

Originally Posted by yarralea

Cheers to previous posters that discussed organ meats.
My mother served me brains, liver and kidney as a child, and I recall being repulsed, but have had brains and livers as an adult when dining out (I'm one of those people who spies a dish, such as raw jellyfish, possum and pigeon, and has to try it) As an adult I enjoyed them, so I think I might have to investigate liver recipes, chicken hearts stir fried with.... bacon...garlic?


But raw jellyfish is hideous. Dont bother if you see it, and pigeon is like spatchcock with tiny annoying bones and possum had tiny triangular shaped bones which take too much effort to avoid swallowing.

Originally Posted by yarralea

But, on the diarrhea? That never went away for me on the 3 or so months I lasted on ZC. It was awful. I think I must be low in "something"(enzymes, acids, bile?) needed to digest meat or fat. I wish I could fix that issue because it was a HUGE problem for me

Originally Posted by Jonahsafta

OK where are the vlc maintainers.....I really want to hear from them.

Originally Posted by Jonahsafta

OK where are the vlc maintainers.....I really want to hear from them.

Originally Posted by Jonahsafta

OK where are the vlc maintainers.....I really want to hear from them.