Sun, Apr-04-10, 08:38
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I've decided
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Plan: LC
Stats: 235/137.6/130
BF:haven't a clue
Progress: 93%
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But if nature (age 48) and history (yo-yo weight loss/gain cycles) are hindering me (as Dr. Eades speculates ), then I guess I could adjust my attitude about what I'm supposed to weigh. My gut isn't that big, it's firm again, I fit into smaller clothes than I did 9 weeks ago, and I feel lots better
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I'm going to go and read that link you posted re: what Dr. Eades has to say about it, but in the meantime, I really think you are doing quite well.
I've had stints of just sort of 'coasting along', but I haven't really done the yo-yo thing (at least not since I started low-carbing), so I don't know how much of an effect this could potentially have. I've been guilty of plan jumping, and being a bit 'lax' (ie. coasting along) while on a plan and so on though.
Maybe it will just take a wee bit longer than it has in the past? I bet things will pick up speed soon.
ETA: That was a pretty good post from Dr. Eades, and some of the comments in there were quite good. Here are a couple of the comments that jumped out at me:
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I find that if I fall off the wagon it takes a week or two for the carb cravings to leave me. During that time, if I am eating to satisfy hunger, the issue becomes calories. And during this time, eating 1500 calories or less becomes very difficult. If my hunger is rearing its ugly head, 4oz. of any protein isn’t going to cut it. If I eat an average restaurant sized ny strip steak and salad with blue cheese dressing, it is probably close to 2000 calories. Once I am in the groove though, I may find I have to force myself to finish a small burger.
Even if you stay very low carb, if you are constantly in this resist craving phase of the diet because you blow it once a month, you can be consuming way more calories than you should. Is it possible this is the case for many people struggling with the diet?
One issue I have found confusing lately – if you look to the paleo side of low carb you often hear lean, lean, lean – I guess due to the presumption that originally protein sources were just that… lean. On this post I hear a lot of fat, fat, fat. When you did your photo food diary Dr. Mike, I noticed there was no cheese, whipped cream, butter or gloppy dressings of any kind. Was this an effort to stay away from dairy or extra fat? I’m asking because the fat issue can have a huge impact on calories and for women especially that may be a concern.
I think the Paleo folks have it wrong about the lean, lean lean. While it’s true that the meat of game animals (as we know them today) is leaner than lot-fed beef, Paleolithic man didn’t just eat the meat. He ate the brains, organs, marrow, and all the fat. In fact, the fatty cuts of meat and organs were the most desired. I think all the emphasis on the leanness of the Paleo diet by today’s writers on the subject come about as a result of their trying to make the Paleo diet fit in with today’s idea of what heart-healthy dieting is instead of reporting the Paleo diet as it really was. There are numerous charts in the literature showing that carcass fat is a function of animal size, meaning that the larger the animal, the more fat said animal contains. An elephant’s carcass has a much larger percentage of fat than does a rabbit’s. And one assumes the same would hold true for a mastodon, all of which were hunted to extinction by early man. In fact, most of the really large animals were hunted to extinction in prehistoric times. The animals left, which the Paleo guys use to show how lean they are, would have probably been ignored as a food source in prehistoric times because they weren’t fat enough, which is why they are still around today.
As to why I didn’t eat a lot of extra fat on my diet diary week…I eat the fat that naturally occurs on the foods I eat, which is plenty. Although I do eat it, I’m not a big fan of cheese, and since I don’t really know what kinds of fats are in various dressings, I usually avoid them. The one rule I really try to stick to is to not eat bad fats. And if I don’t know, I avoid it. ~as qtd. in comments posted in Dr. Michael Eades blog posting, "Why is low-carb harder the second time around?"
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Dr. Eades, I noticed in your on-line food diary (which was very helpful, thank you for doing it) that you actually eat a fairly balanced diet, with lots of vegetables in addition to protein, and that you don’t eat very much. I am someone who has tried a lot of different diets, and when I came back around to low-carb this last time at first I just pigged out – huge steaks, lots of butter, bacon, cheese, nuts, etc. I had convinced myself somehow that not eating starches or sugars (I was very good about that) meant I could anything else, in any amount, from the permitted food list. Obviously, that did not result in meaningful weight loss. After reading your food diary, I followed your example and started eating reasonable portions of good quality protein, along with vegetables at every meal, including breakfast. And wine, of course, but I kept a very tight limit on snacks. That plan really worked, and I am very much enjoying it. If I am representative at all of other repeat low-carbers, I think it is important to remind oneself that it is not a free-for-all. I know it’s probably not the way everybody wants to think about it, but at least in the first few weeks of returning to low-carb to me it is important to remember that it is a diet, a restricted, disciplined food plan, and requires control and balance to be effective. The fact that it is so enjoyable is a plus, of course, but it’s not a never-ending banquet. After buckling down, I have finally started losing weight (I’m a middle aged woman), eight pounds in a month, and I’m grateful for that. I am also exercising quite a bit at the gym, and I believe that is a result of the low-carb diet too. Thanks again for doing the food diary – it was a great learning experience for me.
I’m glad you enjoyed the food diary. I guess I don’t eat very much, but I eat until I’m full. And I’m a fairly big guy (6′2″ 190 lbs) who is pretty active, and I maintain my weight nicely on the food regimen you saw. ~as qtd. in comments posted in Dr. Michael Eades blog posting, "Why is low-carb harder the second time around?"
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http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/...nd-time-around/
Very interesting! So true too, at least for me. I mentioned my own "coasting", and reading these blog comments remind me that my best weight loss periods basically boiled down to meat/fish/eggs/vegetables and not much else.
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