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Old Mon, Jun-25-18, 09:34
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Default Increased Immunity to Disease by eating Oatmea.

I am concidering allowing oatmeal back into the diet for my kids, based on this study. When my kids stopped ating breakfast, usually oatmeal, I noticed an uptick in their sickness level, perhaps this is why.

Thoughts and comments, and more data welcome.

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http://www.radiantrecovery.com/reso.../taleofoats.htm

A Tale of Oats


So, what's the scoop on oats? Why do I encourage you to eat oatmeal? Why did I put oatmeal in George's Shake?

Oats are a slow carbohydrate, the best of the browns. They contain a special kind of fiber called soluble fiber. Apple skins, lentils and oats all contain soluble fiber. But the best of oats comes in its health benefits. Oats have been shown to significantly reduce cholesterol (including the overall level, LDL levels, and the ratio of low to high density by 24%), significantly decrease the glycemic response to breakfast cereal (by 50%) and increase immunity function. We have heard of the cholesterol effect, but immune function?

A recent study took a group of immunosupressed mice and compared their response on the introduction of an infective agent when they were given an oat extract. The mice who did not get the oats showed more severe clinical signs of disease and one half of them died. The oat eaters had "minimal" clinical signs and NO deaths. No deaths! No, we aren't mice, but that is a very interesting outcome. Eat oats, drink oatmilk. They are good for you!

* Yun, CH, et al. beta-(1-->3, 1-->4) oat glucan enhances resistance to Eimeria vermiformis infection in immunosuppressed mice. Int. J. Parasitol., 1997 Mar;27(3):329-37.
* Behall, KM, et al. Effect of beta-glucan level in oat fiber extracts on blood lipids in men and women. J. Am. Coll. Nutr., 1997 Feb;16(1):46-51.
* Tappy, L, et al. Effects of breakfast cereals containing various amounts of beta-glucan fibers on plasma glucose and insulin responses in NIDDM subjects. Diabetes Care, 1996 Aug;19(8):831-4.

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Old Mon, Jun-25-18, 15:02
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Ehhhhh... I'm not buying it. Rodents are meant to eat seeds and grains. I believe we are not.

If your kids did better eating breakfast, why not get them on eggs, meats, fruits, etc? There are lots of moderate-carb, kid-friendly breakfast ideas.
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Old Tue, Jun-26-18, 06:07
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My two cents worth:

The studies are pretty old, isn't that when eating "oats" was all the rage in the US if I remember correctly ~ it could cure cancer, etc...

And Imma always worried about who paid for the research/studies...if it's one of the cereal companies then it's biased to the max...

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Old Tue, Jun-26-18, 16:44
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And Imma always worried about who paid for the research/studies...if it's one of the cereal companies then it's biased to the max...

Bingo! That's the burning question here, as it seems like a marketing campaign for oat country . . . .

Yeah, I'll continue to forgo grains including oatmeal.
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Old Tue, Jun-26-18, 19:51
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I was hoping for responses with substancial information. Not speculation. Hoping....
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I was hoping for responses with substancial information. Not speculation. Hoping....
You did say "Thoughts and comments, and more data welcome."

Sorry... I'll retract my 2 cents worth since I have no data to support or refute the claim by that study...
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I found this article which might give you the information you are looking for:

http://www.lifeextension.com/magazi...glucans/page-01
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Wouldn't oatmeal have small amounts of gluten?
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Wouldn't oatmeal have small amounts of gluten?


The "Free From" sections of some of our supermarkets sell porridge oats that are gluten-free, supposedly. Because the manufacturers make sure to keep them uncontaminated by any wheat products they also make
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Old Wed, Jun-27-18, 08:05
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Here's a major study that says eat away...oats that is.

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/bowl-...ory?id=28027624

Or better yet, try out your hunch and report back to us. Perhaps we can benefit from your experiment on your kids.
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All I can give you, and all I trust, is my N=1 experience. Epidemiological "studies" and RCTs that mix oatmeal in a general diet cannot specify the influence oatmeal has in and of itself. Try it, and if you feel healthy, can maintain weight, control your BG, and can attribute all this specifically to oatmeal, then it should be added to your WOE.
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Old Wed, Jun-27-18, 10:11
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How will you get them to eat it without sugar?
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Here's a major study that says eat away...oats that is.

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/bowl-...ory?id=28027624

Or better yet, try out your hunch and report back to us. Perhaps we can benefit from your experiment on your kids.
I'm hesitant to read an abcnews link. Is there a link to the actual study?
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Old Wed, Jun-27-18, 10:40
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It's a wonderful world out there where we all need to be aware that being published as news or touted as "findings" from "studies" is not all as it's portrayed:
https://www.rt.com/usa/241317-coca-...h-experts-paid/
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Old Wed, Jun-27-18, 10:46
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And to prove you can find anything out there pro or con or both:
http://www.toomuchof.com/too-much-oatmeal-white-oats/

And this:
https://www.ehealthme.com/drug/oatmeal/side-effects/
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