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Old Mon, Sep-12-16, 11:37
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Default How the Sugar Industry Shifted Blame to Fat

They paid off the scientists at Harvard.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/13/w...ame-to-fat.html
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Old Mon, Sep-12-16, 12:41
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Wow... just saw this and raced over here to post it. You beat me to it!
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Old Mon, Sep-12-16, 13:22
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WOW is right.

Maybe, just maybe, the tide is turning???
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Old Mon, Sep-12-16, 18:18
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Even though the influence-peddling revealed in the documents dates back nearly 50 years, more recent reports show that the food industry has continued to influence nutrition science.
This would likely apply to the current American Dietary Guidelines government panel too.
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Old Mon, Sep-12-16, 20:42
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Originally Posted by Dodger
They paid off the scientists at Harvard.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/13/w...ame-to-fat.html

The only surprise about this is that anyone should find it surprising.
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Old Tue, Sep-13-16, 02:19
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Another article about same new study from UCSF in ArsTechnica:

http://arstechnica.com/science/2016...es-for-decades/

From Tom Naughton:

http://www.fathead-movie.com/index....fat-diet-craze/

NPR: http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...nt-blame-at-fat

Dr. Eenfeldt adds more articles from a round the world on the same study.
https://www.dietdoctor.com/nyt-suga...ifted-blame-fat

Last edited by JEY100 : Tue, Sep-13-16 at 09:23.
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Old Tue, Sep-13-16, 02:33
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The only surprise about this is that anyone should find it surprising.


I agree.

Jean
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Old Tue, Sep-13-16, 08:28
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Heartbreaking. Truly. So much suffering for so many people, for so many decades, because of the greed of corporations.
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Old Tue, Sep-13-16, 22:08
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I'm thinking a class action lawsuit ala big tobacco is in order.
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Old Wed, Sep-14-16, 07:30
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Well, if you look at it narrowly, they are probably right. SUGAR, as it's thought of, is not the culprit. CARBs are. But, as carbohydrate is just a fancy name for sugar, then, yes. Sugar is the culprit.

The Sugar Association couldn't have made a weaker excuse for their directing research. "Oh, they weren't required to disclose funding sources back then."

Not funding, you mendacious criminals. Directing research to find a particular desired conclusion. Fund all the research you want, guys. Just be absolutely hands off about it, and allow researchers to be scientific. IE: do research in order to prove OR disprove a theory.
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Old Wed, Sep-14-16, 07:35
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Wow... just saw this and raced over here to post it. You beat me to it!
Haha. I just raced over here to post it too!
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Old Thu, Sep-15-16, 04:31
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Reminder from Dietitians for Professional Integrity that the Sugar Industry always has a booth at the AND conference.

http://integritydietitians.org/blog/

Refers back to a post last year about burning off the calories from a spoon of sugar by styling your hair. Must try that
http://integritydietitians.org/2015...ics-conference/
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Old Thu, Sep-15-16, 06:18
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Well, if you look at it narrowly, they are probably right. SUGAR, as it's thought of, is not the culprit. CARBs are. But, as carbohydrate is just a fancy name for sugar, then, yes. Sugar is the culprit.


I think Dr. Lustig makes a good case that sugar is the chemical that damages us, especially our liver. Perhaps in order to treat that damage we must limit all carbs.
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Old Mon, Sep-26-16, 09:47
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Op-Ed in LA Times by Nina Teicholz.

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-e...snap-story.html

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Don't scapegoat Big Sugar. Lots of food producers profited from the demonization of fat

The recent revelation that Harvard scientists were paid off to downplay sugar’s harms in the 1960s shows how the food industry shockingly manipulated nutrition science for decades. Yet the news media has given the sugar industry too much credit. The real story about how sugar got a pass — while dietary fat and cholesterol were blamed for heart disease — reveals that other industries played a role, as did, surprisingly, many of the country’s leading scientists.

According to an article published Sept. 12 by the journal JAMA Internal Medicine, the sugar industry formulated a game plan in the mid-1950s to capitalize upon an idea gaining traction “among leading nutritionists” that dietary fat and cholesterol cause heart disease. There are only three macronutrients: fat, protein and carbohydrates. Sugar executives recognized that if Americans could be persuaded to adopt a low-fat diet, they would invariably eat more carbs. Think cereal instead of eggs for breakfast, or cookies rather than cheese as a snack. Predicting that some 20% of calories would shift towards carbohydrates — a windfall to all the “carbohydrate industries” — sugar executives paid Harvard scientists to water down a 1967 review of sugar’s potential harms and instead pin the blame for heart disease on fat and cholesterol.

Commentators in the past two weeks have seen this as proof that “Big Sugar” is the equivalent of “Big Tobacco,” undermining good science to cover up the evils of a dangerous product. Yes, sugar executives used similar tactics, but the results were hardly so clear-cut.

Article continue at link above
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Old Mon, Sep-26-16, 15:50
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Yeah, that's a good point. So the low fat people made their case. Made their case in a mendacious way. So where WAS the push back from the low carb manufacturers like the pork board? "The other white meat"? In the marketplace of ideas one isle of ideas was notably bare.
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