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Old Sun, Aug-22-04, 16:40
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Plan: atkins
Stats: 110/110/110 Female 5'6''
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I found this web site pretty cool www.caloriecontrol.com
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Old Sun, Aug-22-04, 17:11
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Plan: Atkins
Stats: 225/187/150 Female 5'2"
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Progress: 51%
Location: NC
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Notice they don't say Kidney problems on the tag line!
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Old Sun, Aug-22-04, 21:15
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Plan: Atkins/Protein Power
Stats: 256/179/160 Female 68 inches
BF:38.9/27.2/24.3
Progress: 80%
Location: Triangle NC
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Well MonkeyBoy, I'm not sure why you think is't a "cool site"....but:

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Low Carbohydrate Diets May Be Hazardous to Those With Kidney Problems
Although popular, low-carbohydrate, high-protein diets are not for everyone. Having an excess amount of protein in the body, particularly from meat and dairy sources, can cause additional harm to the kidneys of people with kidney disease. Harvard researchers have found that the excess protein can deteriorate the kidney function of those with mild, moderate or severe kidney disease or kidney problems. Doctors also warn that high protein diets can cause the body to excrete more calcium through the urine, and may increase the risk of kidney stones. Before starting any low carbohydrate diet, a doctor should evaluate an individual’s kidney function, as well as check their history of kidney stones.


First off, while there are studies showing that people with "mild, moderate or severe kidney disease or kidney problems" have a problem with protein, there are also studies that indicate that people with kidney problems actually need more protein. (I'll look for links tomorrow, or just search the forum).

Second, from what I've read, low fat diets are a problem with calcium absorption, not low carb.

As for seeing your doc before going on a LC diet.....well you really should check with your doc before starting ANY diet.

This is one of the articles on how to do LC "safely"...their description of Atkins:

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Atkins Diet

* Almost no carbs allowed (including fruits, vegetables, and whole grains)
* No calorie or fat restrictions (diet contains almost three times the recommended saturated fat)
* Overall, the diet lacks many nutrients including vitamins C, D, and E; thiamin, calcium, iron, magnesium, potassium and zinc
* Diet contains very little fiber


*Atkins starts you off with 20 carbs/day, ALMOST ALL FROM VEGGIES. Fruits and whole grains are added later.
*No calorie restrictions, true...but the LC books I've read (DANDR and Protein Power) both mention that some people need to watch their intake and they also note that you shouldn't stuff yourself, but eat until satisfied. TRANSFATS are restricted.
* Well I've been on LC for almost a year and keep track of what I eat in FitDay. I take multi-vit a day and have NEVER been deficient in any vitamins or minerals or any other nutrients (except carbs, of course).
*LC should be high fiber! If you eat the veggies you should, you'll get plenty of fiber (If you really think it's important)

Nope, I personally wouldn't refer to this as a "cool site"....esp on a LC forum!
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Old Mon, Aug-23-04, 00:46
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Rowan'sma Rowan'sma is offline
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Plan: Atkins
Stats: 117//! Female 5'3"
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Location: Berkeley, CA
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How is this website relevant to Atkins?
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Old Mon, Aug-23-04, 05:42
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Plan: My Own
Stats: 200/180/175 Male 5'11.5"
BF:sz36/sz31/sz30
Progress: 80%
Location: Altavista,Va, USA
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Originally Posted by Rowan'sma
How is this website relevant to Atkins?



Esply since it seems to be anti-atkins.

Last edited by Vydor : Mon, Aug-23-04 at 06:45.
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Old Mon, Aug-23-04, 06:15
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Plan: Dr. Atkins
Stats: 149/138/132 Female 5'3"
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Progress: 65%
Location: Central Pennsylvania
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I like the site, some good information in there if you read it all.
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Old Mon, Aug-23-04, 07:31
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Wickedways Wickedways is offline
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Plan: Atkins
Stats: 198.5/190.5/135 Female 5'2
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Progress: 13%
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I eat MORE fibre now and more veggies now than pre-diets, low fat, no fat and every diet I have ever been on...I am SO SO sick of hearing this garbage about atkins, and having overweight people repeat these ignorant things, particularly when they could benefit most from low carbing.

Wouldn't it be nice if the truth was just accepted and people could decide for themselves if low carbing was right for them?? I KNOW its not right for everyone but good heavens give them the truth to decide with <---end of rant.
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Old Mon, Aug-23-04, 08:36
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Plan: Atkins 1972
Stats: 223/190/160 Female 5ft8
BF:OUT OF CONTROL
Progress: 52%
Location: Fort Lauderdale, Florida
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Old Mon, Aug-23-04, 08:47
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Plan: Somersize
Stats: 291.5/259/135 Female 66 inches
BF:off the scale
Progress: 21%
Location: Western Maryland
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Blitzed,

Your Hilarious!!!!


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Old Mon, Aug-23-04, 09:17
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Plan: Anabolic diet
Stats: 355.0/308.0/230.0 Male 73 inches
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Progress: 38%
Location: So Cal Gangsta
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please don't feed the trolls...
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Old Mon, Aug-23-04, 09:44
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Kristine Kristine is offline
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Plan: Primal/P:E
Stats: 171/145/145 Female 5'7"
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Progress: 100%
Location: Southern Ontario, Canada
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*blank stare*

*chucks thread into War Zone*
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Old Mon, Aug-23-04, 09:51
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Plan: Angry Paleo
Stats: 375/205/180 Male 6'3"
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Progress: 87%
Location: Sacramento, CA
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Please, don't use our beloved War Zone as a trash heap.
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Old Tue, Aug-24-04, 07:11
jimjam jimjam is offline
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Plan: 60 grams or less a day
Stats: 178/148/135
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Progress: 70%
Location: USA
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There is good info on that site - I've used it many times. And like it or not, there is something to be said about the truth - and keeping an open mind to it - it's just plain common sense. And can't we all just get along????
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Old Tue, Aug-24-04, 10:53
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Plan: atkins
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Amen to that jimjam
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Old Tue, Aug-24-04, 11:05
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Plan: Back to Atkins
Stats: 298/228/160 Female 5ft9in
BF:?/35/?
Progress: 51%
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Posting a low-fat, low cal website in the thread of a high-fat diet like Atkins just SEEMS like a dig.
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