Funny, after my 2 glasses of wine indiscretion on Sat. night...for the first time in over 3 weeks on induction my weight actually dropped...I read somewhere that on a keto diet wine triggers a stall in some people and a loss in others....is that weird or what?

Do I need to keep drinking wine to lose weight ?

Alcohol can have a diuretic effect causing a loss a day or two later, then it normally bounces back as fluids are replaced.
Or, the timing was just right for you to drop.

If only.... Sorry, probably dehydration. Works in the short term but it'll get you in the end. Ask me how I know.

ok, it's Thursday and the weight hasn't come back!

Sadly after 4 weeks on the diet and only that one indiscretion on Sat. I am exactly where I started (went up 1 lb. and then back down 1 lb.) If I'm being honest I don't think my clothes are looser.

Does this WOE not work for some people? I know I should just soldier on but it's discouraging.

My friend just started "The Plan" on Monday an had lost 5 lbs. by yesterday eating all kinds of yummy things. I went really low carb yesterday to see if it would help, only carbs I had were 1 c. sliced cucumber, 3 T HWC in coffee, some cheddar, probably < 2 oz. and some ground pork rinds on my chicken...that's gotta be WAY under 20. Today I feel fat though!

What plan are you following?

Sometimes it depends on what we eat as much as how much we eat even if it is low carb. I had lost 35 pounds and then the weight loss stopped and I gave up. Turns out that cheese was the problem. Now I have to lose it again!

Look at what you are eating to see if there is something there that your body doesn't like.

Nine different members gave you answers to basically the same question 6 days ago. I haven't changed my views on your approach to health, you still have medical conditions that should be addressed.

http://forum.lowcarber.org/showthread.php?t=468481

I know, and I do really appreciate that Janet, I'm just so bummed out as I am trying so hard (except for my 1 screw up) to lose weight. I see everyone on here who has lost so much weight so know that it must work but I guess because it's never happened much for me I am doubting it will work. What's weird is when I did Ideal Protein, when my liver was bad (at least towards the end of it - the enzymes were 5x what they should be) I was losing weight fast. That was low fat, low carb but I just couldn't keep it up because with my allergy to gluten, and sucralose, there were almost no foods left.

If you were me, what would you do about your health? I'm in Canada so somewhat at the mercy of the docs I go to (other than the naturopaths that I pay myself) and have to pay out of pocket for all my medical when I'm in the US (unless it's an emergency).

I had an absolutely awful time on Synthroid and all the other normal thyroid meds, as I was always feeling like crap. Now after almost 50 years I'm on a compounded med that balances my thyroid and I feel way better (and it does not leech the calcium out of my bones). I am on a high does as my thyroid is pretty much shot.

Do you think I should try going off my bio identical hormones for menopause? It's so confusing for me because the doc said it would be easier to lose weight on them.

The Canadian docs answer to the liver, is to send me to a gastroenterologist although I wanted to go to a hepatologist (and that's what the AZ doc recommended). He said he was sending me to a hepatologist but instead phoned with an appointment to the gastro doc (who has such absolutely hideous reviews online that I'm almost scared to go). I didn't even know he was a gastro doc until I Googled him. That is next week so maybe I'll, know more but I bet he'll say stop the ketosis, high fat diet so listening to him probably won't help.

Is there anything else you think I can do? I guess I'm worried that I'm eating too much fat.

My plan is under 20g of carbs, high fat.

Just wondering why you thought this - in my low carb way of eating (Atkins) there are tons of foods available without gluten or sucralose.

There are many here that are gluten intolerant, including me. I am also dairy and some nuts intolerant but I do not feel deprived at all. There are many options available, you just need to think outside the box a bit.

Me too, same as JAnn. But no deprivation, just thinking outside the box.

Have you read Wheat Belly Total Health?

We haven't had a good "discussion" about bio-identical hormones in a while and I don't want to start another. But you are taking them because the doctor said it would be easier to lose weight...well, then they are not working for YOU. That alone would be a good reason to stop them. My view is the salvia tests for reproductive hormones are inaccurate and compounding pharmacies (at least in the U.S.) unregulated. http://www.acog.org/Resources-And-P...Hormone-Therapy
You could be getting levels of hormones that damage your liver due to errors anywhere along that process. If menopausal symptoms are totally debilitating, then taking natural hormone prescriptions, dose determined through blood tests with a medical doctor, in the lowest effective dose for the shortest time possible seems OK. You mention high levels of thyroid meds also compounded..are they blocking weight loss or impacting liver? And you should go to a liver specialist, not a gastroenterologist. In the meantime until your liver is healed, stop whatever low fat, high protein diet is this week's latest it diet and Just Eat Healthy Real Food. wave: http://authoritynutrition.com/how-to-eat-healthy/

Ideal Protein is a specific diet company (and very successful for many people) where you eat their food. Unfortunately many of the foods contain gluten so that really limits me. Once I started, I found out that I was allergic to sucralose (which is also in the food as the FDA wouldn't allow them to use stevia as they were exporting it) so that brought me down to about 2 food to eat 3-4 times a day.

This reply is also for JAnn and Little Me

Janet, I am not taking them because they would help me lose weight, I am taking them because I'd rather be dead than the way I felt without them...I simply could not function. It was like someone sucked the life right out of me, and I was unable to function and I am a very positive, upbeat person. He mentioned in passing that it might be easier to lose weight as he knows I want to.

My doc does write a very conservative (in his words) prescription for them and does both blood and saliva tests. My hormones are still VERY low and I still have lots of symptoms of menopause. I can't for the life of me understand how any woman can make it through menopause without them. But I've had a hormone imbalance my whole life so perhaps mine is worse.

I agree about the Hepatologist but the doc I found here is very arrogant and said he would send me to one and then booked me with the Gastro doc. In Canada, you can't just phone up a specialist and go, you must have a referral. I have been waiting a month to get a new GP and I finally got an appointment for July 18th and can then ask her to see a Hepatologist but am told there are not many in Canada period!

I am only taking T4 and T3 for thyroid, I have no idea if they bother my liver but it's been fine on them for years, do you have another suggestion?

I am not on low fat, high protein, although I did try that (Ideal Protein) last summer and lost 18 lbs. very fast. I've been doing low carb <20 and high fat, aka Atkins DANDR.

The doc wants me to lose weight, he said it would be better for my liver but you think I should stop anyhow?

On a happy note I seem to have lost 1/2 lb.

Thanks again and sorry if I'm frustrating you, I'm just confused as to what to do and feel at a loss.

I think that right now, you probably shouldn't be focusing on weight. It sounds like what you need to focus on is your overall health. Feed yourself unprocessed, healthy, whole foods like organic veggies and pastured meats. Reduce the toxic load on your body. Eat simply. Don't overcomplicate it. Feed yourself when you are hungry. When you're not hungry, don't eat. Drink plenty of pure water. Eliminate any toxins like alcohol or caffeine. Don't focus on weight loss, just on making yourself healthy. That's my suggestion, for what it's worth.