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Old Tue, Oct-05-04, 19:08
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I am currently in the process of the induction part of atkins, but I hate all the fat that needs to be included for the induction phase. I am very interested in the PP diet and I've been doing a little research. At the moment, I have two questions:

How are you suppose to determine your daily protein intake. I followed a link for the Zone diet and it said that I have 133 lean body mass, 19.35 % bf, and suggest 77g/day of protein. Is this correct?

Also, when measuring protein, are you measuring cooked or uncooked. I am using fitday and they measure cooked, not raw- or is there a difference.

Please give some info. on PP's protein requirments.
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PPLP recommends your protein minimum of 100g per day.

Whether you are doing Atkins or PP, you must get some healthy fats into your diet.

I would suggest you seriously question why you want to be 140 pounds (at 6' 1") If you want to lose some body fat then by all means build some muscle, but IMHO you don't need to lose weight.

Cheers,

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Old Wed, Oct-06-04, 19:40
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100 grams of protein sounds about right. Another way to determine protein needs is to multiply your current weight by .6. So, if you weigh 166, your MINIMUM protein requirement is around 99.6 grams. Pretty close to what the charts in Protein Power Lifeplan (PPLP) state.

And remember, this is your minimum requirement. You can have more.

But Malcolm is right. You don't needs tons of fat, but you do need some good healthy fat in your diet. For Atkins, I've heard approximate percentages of around 65% fat, 30% protein, and 5% carbs. Although there are no percentages given out by the Eades (authors of PP), I've heard percentages bantered about that are more like 55% fat, 35% protein, and 10% carbs. (Atkins starts you out at 20 carbs per day, PP starts out at 30 carbs per day.)

Did that help at all?

Also, unless we could see a picture of you, it is impossible for us to determine whether you are at your correct weight or not. And that's my humble opinion. For the vast majority of people (not talking about people with body image and eating disorders), only they know if they need to lose weight or not.
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I see where the two of you are coming from. First off, thanks for the info. I see how far off I was for my protein intake. Up until recently, I have been very conscious of the way I eat, because I was always active in sports. To me, fat=fat. Now, don't get me wrong. I do eat good fats, such as olive oil instead of butter, turkey bacon instead of regular bacon. But I'll pick and weed out things I think are bad fats, like hamburger. I guess I just need to educate myself more on fat nutrients before I weed everything out.
As for the weight comment made by mcsblues, I disagree. 160 at 6'1 for a male is different a 6'1 female. Body composition is totally different and men are able to build and maintain muscle better than women- in my opinion. My goal weight is my high school weight. It is not "underweight" for my height. And like many other people in this forum, setting a goal provides motivation and encourages self-discipline. Thats all I'm doing.
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Bluejene, there's nothing wrong with saturated fat. Olive oil is good, but so is butter. And the only problem with "real" bacon is the nitrates, not the type of fat. And if you're staying away from hamburger because of saturated fat, don't. I didn't check your profile. Have you read either any of the Atkins books or the Protein Power books? Both explain in detail why saturated fat is not the villain it's made out to be.

And your comment that you disagree with Malcolm's opinion, that's why I posted mine -- that only you can tell if you're overweight (again, barring any body image or eating disorders that can warp your self-image).
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