Originally Posted by Leah Wynne

Ok...ya'll are not getting it. Protein shakes in and of themselves will NOT make you gain weight. If you are taking them in place of another meal, and therefore your calories have remained the same...they will not make you gain anything...you're trading calorie for calorie (and yes, I am aware you may be using a different macronutrient...but let's not even worry about that at the moment). Now if you're taking a shake in ADDITION to your regular meals...I can see adding weight...but this is due to an increase in calories...not because you are drinking a protein shake.

Originally Posted by Built

I started hearing about how quickly whey digested/glycolyzed because of the small, quickly digesting molecules of pre-chewed protein, and dropped it.

Originally Posted by Built

I think the issue here might be in looking at the transition from straight Atkins/keto dieting, to more of a bodybuilding programme. I know that for me, that road has been rather bumpy.

If you're operating on a pure cals-in-cals-out paradigm, then no, whey won't make you gain weight unless your cals go up. But if you're trying to avoid cravings and hunger by staying in ketosis, then, yes, this can be problematic.

And I'm still not all that sure about the whole "metabolic advantage" thing with ketosis, but I know I ate a heck of a lot of calories when I first started Atkins, and I dropped a lot of weight, fast. I know SOME of it was water, but if I lost 20 pounds of water over a few months, all I can say is F***, was I ever BLOATED! In the initial stages of this little experiment, I was relying on ketosis for fat loss. Anything that interfered with this at least APPEARED to cause me to gain weight. I started hearing about how quickly whey digested/glycolyzed because of the small, quickly digesting molecules of pre-chewed protein, and dropped it. I started leaning out again.

So, I don't know HOW it was all happening, but I know that it DID. I'm all ears for suggestions.

Originally Posted by featherz

The vast majority of the BB types on the various boards eat tons of whey, even when cutting. However, everyone is different - some people experience bloating and gas with too much whey.

Originally Posted by troppo1

Recommended shake?

Originally Posted by -thunder-

Common with cheap whey protein concentrates.

Originally Posted by troppo1

Thunder,
all I can find over here in Holland in my local area is AmericanSports "Hard Body"
It says on the label to take it after a workout, after breakfast and if I have muscle soreness and before I go to bed.
Is this right?

Originally Posted by troppo1

Thanks,
I can stop with the diet soon as my love handels are starting to fade and I can actually start to see some tummy muscle. I have lost 3 kilo's in 2 weeks but I might lose a bit more to make sure the body fat is gone and I can start to replace it with muscle.
I never had hunger with this diet, so not a prob.
After learning how to count carbs, now I have to learn how to count calories and protien.
"Nothing comes easy in this life"

I have started putting 95% protein powder in the bread I bake, can I take too much protein?