Okay, meat-eaters, let's get physical!

Sounds great!! And now I have saved the thread so I can find it later.

I want to add to the facts about swimming... I sometimes thought that my swimming as a child made my metabolism go haywire. We swam at all temperatures, I remember water of 54 degrees F.. that was COLD and you really needed to develop fat to be able to stand it, I think.
I swam every morning at 7 and every afteroon after school we were in the water. It was a small village and that was the only thing we could do <g> and I loved it!
Of course this is just one of the thoughts that have crossed my mind about the reason why I was so fat so quickly, so just thought, let's see what y'all think about that!?

do you all thinnk this is totally rubbish, or did this post just not appear in time to be reacted upon? just wondering!

Thank you, Ms. Rose.

There is an old adage that you cannot out exercise a bad diet and I agree but I think that there are valid reasons to exercise.

Personally, I had a period of about 8 years between exercise sessions. Exercise and physical activity receded into the background-work, family commitments were in the forefront as they should be.

Now I realize that an hour or so excercse routine can be incorporated seamlessly into my life and actually enhances the other aspects of my life. Obviously that "number" could be increased or decreased with little effort and nothing else would be adversely affected.

Paleoeat has a great review with some of the highlights of BBS and I hope that he could cut and paste them here. Dr. McGuff discusses the benfits of heavy slow weightlifting as an exercise and others would benefit from his arguments.

One point that I will mention is that he believes that lifting weights in a fasted state promotes insulin sensitivity.

I do heavy weightlifting. Sometimes slow, but I do not believe in the super slow approach. I also life semi-but-not-completely fasted (I lift eating .5lb. GB prior). I still eat my largest meat at night, independent of my lifting.

Rose, I missed this and started a thread in the exercise forum. Oh well, maybe that one will get deleted. Thanks. I'll repost my remarks here, as this particular spin interests me anyway:

I am interested in learning and sharing more about exercise programs that are suitable to increasing overall health in people following a mainly carnivorous diet. That is the reason for the term 'dirty' - those not necessarily following strictly animal foods only.

Many people have had issues with energy on very low carb diets and exercise routines - especially high intensity ones, such as martial arts, weight lifting and others. In my experience, energy was never a problem for me following martial arts, weight training and other forms of exercise. But I have also seen that others don't do so well in this regard. Why is that?

Oops--I missed that; shows how often I'm in the exercise forum. Well, maybe this topic really belongs over there; I'm not sure how they prefer things on this forum.

Satya I have no idea on this either. Im the same as you, ive never had a problem, in fact my energy skyrocketed when I went meat and eggs, and the lower my carbs got, the more energy i had. And that was training full time as a professional athlete, then working at night as coach, alot of which was hands on a demonstrating, sometimes taking part in the sessions. Pretty much 14 hour days of non stop physical movement yet I burned out anyone who ever trained with me, when they hit the wall i was still going. I spoke about this with Dr Greg Ellis and he said when you make the metabolic switch you will outlast all the carb eaters, and it was true, he said the same effect happened with sled dogs, they performed better the lower the carbs got, and best as full carnivores- as they are in nature.

How long have you been eating this way, Kelso? My, but we are so alike in many ways! Your training protocol was much more umphy than anything I could manage, but like you, I can't understand the guys who do martial arts and can't hang on vlc-zc. We are all so unique in some regards. And it sure is nice to have a spot where we can talk about this stuff, and disagree and learn and all that.

I began eating just meat and eggs, and cream and cheese about 4 years ago now Satya, and before that i had been paleo for a year or so. Other than a trial reintroduction of fruits and veggies about a year ago- which was right before i or sick, and i didnt start improving until i removed them. Then i just went meat, and organ meat and dropped all the dairy about 6 months ago. So in total ive ive eating what you could call a traditional diet for over 5 years, and zero carb (if you include cheese, butter and cream) for 4 years, and pure just meat for 6 months. Although there were extended periods also within the previous 4 years i just ate meat with no dairy either.

That's how I felt when I went snow-shoeing. It wasn't that they could not keep up, but I did it fasted and kept going and they were eating gels and stuff.

Hey guys im with you on this as well.

Today I did lunges and realized how out of shape I was WOW!!!

going to do 20 min of Elyptical machine tomorrow

Lets get physical

Per Satya's request, I'm reposting this from my journal to the exercise thread. This is regarding a study on swimming vs. running in rats:

As far as the study's concerned, I've only skimmed it, but this is from the abstract:


It certainly sounds as if swimming and running are beneficial for rats.

A little deeper into the study, there's this cite:


Satya is right, there are a lot of gems in here. I'll comb through it when I get home tonight.

Well, I heard one of our ALC Old Timers say that the moderators like zc type stuff in the challenges section. Let's just wait and see if they delete the other. This is fine.