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Old Fri, Mar-16-18, 05:08
LebenRedux LebenRedux is offline
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Plan: Dr. Westman
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Leban, some people find that dairy, including heavy cream, interferes with weight loss. Others can eat dairy without problems.

If your weight loss has stalled, you might want to try cutting down on the amount of heavy cream you allow yourself each day...not because its going to do your heart any harm- I don't think there is ANY solid evidence that it will - but simply because it may be keeping you from losing the weight you want to lose. If you're generally using a cup of heavy cream per day, try limiting yourself to 1/2 cup per day and see if you start losing weight again. If so, once you get to your goal weight, you can start slowly adding more heavy cream back to your diet.


The one thing we do learn on this forum is that while there seems to be some general "guidelines" to LCHF that apply reasonably broadly across the board, every single body is different! What works perfectly for one person might not work for another. Thus while we can get some guidance from each other's experience, ultimately each of us have to figure out our own journey.



I'm only a month into keto but haven't detected any problem with weight loss with the quantity of cream I'm using. But I know that especially during the induction period there are a lot of different changes going on that can produce a dramatic weight loss (for me, 9#) that might in turn mask an subtle (or not) slow-down effect of cream. I'll just keep an eye on it as time goes by. But every single week, the principle you described is even further ingrained as I work with this new WOE: every body is different!
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If you crave more and more cream (or other dairy) and find it hard to restrict it to <4T/day, you likely have a sensitivity to dairy protein (casein) and are experiencing the resulting casomorphin effect. Instead of cream, at home I use 1 teaspoon of butter (mostly fat, minimal protein/milk solids) in my 10-oz mug of coffee and no longer worry about cream going bad before finishing the carton. I do use an occasional real-cream vial in my coffee when eating out with no problems, but cannot keep dairy, including yogurt & cheese, in the house.
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Old Sat, Mar-17-18, 09:37
LebenRedux LebenRedux is offline
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Plan: Dr. Westman
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If you crave more and more cream (or other dairy) and find it hard to restrict it to <4T/day, you likely have a sensitivity to dairy protein (casein) and are experiencing the resulting casomorphin effect. Instead of cream, at home I use 1 teaspoon of butter (mostly fat, minimal protein/milk solids) in my 10-oz mug of coffee and no longer worry about cream going bad before finishing the carton. I do use an occasional real-cream vial in my coffee when eating out with no problems, but cannot keep dairy, including yogurt & cheese, in the house.


Thanks, deirdra. I'll research the casomorphin effect!
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