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Old Thu, Dec-29-16, 21:09
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Default Psoriatic Arthritis?

I just had a vertical sleeve gastrectomy and I'm not longer able to use ibuprofen based products for pain (I have psoriatic arthritis).

Does anyone else suffer from this disease and what are you currently using for pain (without ibuprophen).

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Old Fri, Dec-30-16, 08:16
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Hi, I don't have psoriatic arthritis, just the regular sort, but it can be VERY painful. I find that eating fish really helps a lot. I'm talking about small, cold-water fish like sardines and herring. The omega-3's seems to calm the inflammation.

Also, I find that a number of things make me ache worse including: dairy products and legumes (peanuts). It turns out I have a large number of food intolerances that are linked to my various autoimmune issues and my arthritis. Oh corn is about the worst. I hurt like hell after eating corn.

I've tried, but have not stuck with, taking curcumin supplements. That is supposed to help too, but I haven't been very good about taking them.

I think I really ruined my intestines by taking NSAIDs for my arthritis. Really, since I've stopped taking them, I have less pain, unless I get whacky with my eating.

If you've got the money, or an HSA account, you could order up a test on Enterolab.com and try to figure out if food sensitivities could be making your autoimmune issue worse.

I didn't mention gluten, gluten was the worst thing so I eliminated that 10 years ago.
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Old Fri, Dec-30-16, 08:45
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Psoriatic arthritis is considered an autoimmune disease and can be helped by following a diet designed to address autoimmune conditions. Nsaids may even exacerbate autoimmune diseases even while helping with pain. You can learn more about following an autoimmune protocol here:

https://www.thepaleomom.com/start-h...mmune-protocol/

I have multiple food sensitivities and follow a very similar diet to the one described. I have found Terry Wahls's book "The Wahls Protocol" very helpful. Like Nancy I have done testing through Enterolab which helped me identify my multiple sensitivities. It really is worth looking into dietary change as a way of treating your psoriatic arthritis.

Jean
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Thanks for all your excellent advice.

At the moment, I don't eat much gluten and I have to take 3000 units of calcium a day because of the very little amount of calories that I consume due to my gastric sleeve.

I'll look into food intolerances.

In the meantime, any other information is appreciated.
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Thanks for all your excellent advice.

At the moment, I don't eat much gluten and I have to take 3000 units of calcium a day because of the very little amount of calories that I consume due to my gastric sleeve.

I'll look into food intolerances.

In the meantime, any other information is appreciated.


Unfortunately not eating much gluten is not enough. Unless you cut it out entirely your body will still be producing antibodies that keep the reaction going.

Jean
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Old Thu, Jan-05-17, 08:41
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Alright--so gluten is an all or nothing approach?

Unfortunately, due to the diet restrictions I have after surgery, full gluten avoidance isn't going to fly although I will ask my dietician.

Thanks for your input!
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Old Tue, Feb-21-17, 00:39
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I have psoriasis and am in a major flare right now.
I've had psoriatic arthritis off and on for 10 years-- one year very badly -- but most recently mostly aches and twinges I can tolerate, which is like a miracle after that very bad year. Avoiding wheat has been very helpful. I used to go back and forth-- months low carb, then wheat-based binges, and I began to finally notice the connection between wheat binges and aching wrists, elbows, ankles.

I think the reason I have basically been in remission from the psoriatic arthritis for 5 years is the lowered inflammation due to wheat avoidance...whereas I haven't had an remission, ever, from the psoriasis.

I'm sorry I don't have a suggestion for an alternative pain killer. Have you and your derm/rhuemetologist discussed methotrexate? (please don't jump all over me, those who don't follow western med. On a 25 year journey with a condition we all try various approaches...need to find what works for each of us...and balance risks with benefits each on our own scale.)

Good luck in your search.

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I used Methotrexate to treat an ectopic pregnancy. No one suggested for my PA.

I have an appointment with a new Rheumatologist in August. I'll ask then.
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I took mex for Uveitis and it robbed me of half my week. I felt worse taking it.
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Hi Curvy,

I have both Celiac Disease & SLE (LUPUS). My Lupus triggers seriously painful joint pain. I do not eat any gluten at all, and that by itself has healed me. I used to take prescription oral steroids & anti-inflammatory (by the bottles weekly). I also needed Chemo.
Ever since I have eaten VLC (KETOGENIC), I am 100% pain free. I have zero pain and do not take any medication and/or vitamins at all, and no longer need Chemo. I still see my specialist every 3 months for blood work and I am SLE & pain free.
Best wishes to you always,

Faith
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Unfortunately, due to the diet restrictions I have after surgery, full gluten avoidance isn't going to fly although I will ask my dietician.

Why on earth would that be the case? There isn't anything in wheat (or other gluten containing products) that you can't get from something else, well... except gluten.

If someone is telling you that, I'd be very suspicious of their advice.
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I understand many bariatric surgeons recommend a low carb approach; since it is vital that whatever you eat has the highest possible nutrition.

This also helps with auto-immune disorders, as in the Wahl Protocol. She has videos and a book; that might be worth exploring.
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