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Originally Posted by LessLiz
Hmm, your issue on PP was not enough fat, and mine on Atkins was not enough protein. Seems like we landed in the same place -- enough protein and enough fat.
I honestly get almost nauseated when I read Atkins voluptuous words describing extremely high fat meals. I know that works for a lot of people, but it makes me sick. It isn't like you have to eat a huge amount of fat on Atkins, but the way he wrote about it almost makes it seem that way. OTOH, I can also see where Eades warning about high calorie levels, which have to come from fat, can also give the wrong message.
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I really think that Dr A was trying to show people that fat wasn't the 'big bad wolf' that it was portrayed to be. I interpreted it as permission, not a command, to eat as much fat as you personally like. When I first tried Atkins, back in the mid-90's, just before PP, that time I zoned in on "eat all the protein you want." I was eating about 16 ounces a day, I was so relieved to be able to EAT again! But, of course, I didn't lose after the initial water drop.
Which oddly enough, brought me to the weight I am right about now, and I switched to PP to continue losing.
I guess it's all in what you zone in on...in the mid-90's I had interpreted PP as "you can resume eating fat, but you still have to monitor it." Now I realize that isn't what they said at all, they said it only if you weren't losing to be mindful of it--which eating the protein minimum has never stalled me anyway, should I shouldn't have been so afraid of fat back then. I suffered a lot of hunger that I probably didn't need to. But since I was new to LC when I started PP, I was still sort of in that "watch your fat" mindset anyway.
Interestingly, even eating "all that fat" these days, I still rarely go extremely high calories--except when I binge, of course. I haven't hit the point where I stop losing, not with fat, anyway. I hit it with protein (about 1500 cals), but not with fat (even up to 2500 once a week doesn't slow me down, as long as the carbs are low). I can't consistently eat high calorie (above 2000) eating all the fat I want every single day. A high cal day will often be followed by a lower cal day, or even 2. Then I'll get hungry again, and eat more... I think I average about 1700-1800 per day, over time.
I still need to get to the point where I can read my appetite better. I think that if allow myself to eat as much as I want, every single day, I won't be as tempted to binge after several days of "cutting back," either inadvertently by following a light appetite or on purpose by trying to cut back on something.
I think both plans are so great...I use the tenets of both to construct my current plan!
Protein minimum (PPLP), all the fat I want (Atkins), 20g carbs per day (Atkins) from almost any source (PPLP).