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Old Thu, Jan-25-18, 07:00
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Feldman's video is very informative, thanks for the link, teaser. It makes sense that for a period of time, moving the energy balance to something other than endogenous fat (even carbs/glucose) would result in a better lipid result by doing this just before a blood draw. Long term carbs? Well, I know personally how that turns out.

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Old Thu, Jan-25-18, 08:50
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Thanks for the tip on the new Feldman video. I'll watch it tonight. I'll be having my annual checkup in 2 months. Like last year I plan on eating to energy balance in the week prior to the lab draw. Last year I did that and had cholesterol numbers that made my doctor's head glow with delight. 6 months later I had a cholesterol test done on my own when I was in weight loss mode in the week before the test. My LDL was double what it was 6 months before. I'm debating as to whether should show my doctor those results after I get my expected stellar results back in March. Should I just let her smile and be happy? Or should I try to educate her about he meaninglessness of LDL as a stand alone marker. We'll see what I get in March, but I'm pretty sure that I could make my LDL be as "Good" or as "Bad" as I want it to be.
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Old Wed, May-02-18, 03:39
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Originally Posted by JEY100
Today received new blog post by Dr Michael Eades, that basically explains how to use the strategy from Dave Feldman's work on making short term diet changes (increasing fats) to lower your cholesterol numbers. Sounds crazy...but check this out.

Great read! Thanks.

Has Dave Feldman posted his menu with the 461g of fat? I'd like some ideas for the three days leading up to my annual exam coming up in October.

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Old Sat, May-19-18, 05:55
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http://itsthewooo.blogspot.ca/2018/...econd.html#more

Woo gets in a friendly back and forth with Dave here. Some of Woo's position reminds me of the approach Ken is taking. I think diabetes/insulin resistance is the more important target, it's more obvious what to do about that. Fine-tuning cholesterol is a different thing--Dave shows you can manipulate it short-term. But if you were to try manipulating cholesterol long term by overeating fat--probably both your lipids and your insulin and glucose levels would be disappointing. I wouldn't be willing to sacrifice much of anything in the way of avoiding pathological insulin resistance and diabetes for the sake of a better lipid profile, but like Woo says, it's not like it has to be one or the other. Even in the Quebec study, having low insulin very greatly reduced the risk of a high ldl particle count, but it didn't wipe it out.
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Old Sat, May-19-18, 05:57
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Although you do have to understand I guess, when a lipid profile gives 1.5 the risk in a very low risk segment of the population, that's 1.5 times not very much.
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https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/91/3/578/4597130

Not a new study, looking at the wickedness of low carb for not suppressing free fatty acids.


https://oup.silverchair-cdn.com/oup...E5G5CRDK6RD3PGA

Tried to post as an image... anyways, graph of free fatty acids vs. ldl cholesterol, decent correlation.
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Old Sun, May-27-18, 07:46
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Studies like these convince me that the lipid profile of those following a LCHF becomes different than those following other eating approaches. The question is whether the increase in FFAs is actually unhealthy or simply an indication of the dynamics found in those when fat becomes the primary fuel. Certainly lots more to understand about this, but the knee-jerk reaction to a higher lipid profile is not necessarily an indictment for heart or health risk due to diet. Once again, it's the situation where the increased presence of fat doesn't mean that fat is the root cause of any disease, similar to the presence of firefighters at a fire.
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