Fri, Jan-27-17, 13:37
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Plan: Banting
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Progress: 100%
Location: New Zealand
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This discussion reminds me of another somewhat more heated discussion I had with somebody on another forum discussing weight loss. He's firmly in the "eat less, move more" / "calories in, calories out" camp.
Anyway, somebody else asked for advice there one day, this guy trotted out the above line, I called him out that it's actually not that simple, and he replied with a list of 30 different studies that "prove" he's right. He actually keeps this list on file somewhere so that he can copy/paste it in response to anyone like me who belongs to, in his words, "the most annoying cult on the internet".
So I countered with my own experiences. My experiences alone don't counter the studies, which in most cases seemed to show that the type of diet didn't matter. Which is fine by me. My problem was that he was using these studies to claim that there's no substance to low carb at all, which the studies themselves did not actually demonstrate. Some people lost weight using low carb, others lost weight using low fat.
But while my experience couldn't counter the studies (nor could I ever expect them to really, I'm just another n=1), it could easily counter his "my way is the only way" conclusion he'd reached from them.
His response to that was that I was lying. Apparently I just ate less from the very start without even realising it; which I thought was kinda funny, since you know, I was actually there and he wasn't. The cognitive dissonance was pretty strong in this one.
The point I guess is that some people just will not be convinced. But equally as important a point I think is that we shouldn't feel we have to convince these people. If whatever they're doing is working for them then so be it.
So to porthardy, I would say let your friend try out her beliefs and see how they work out for her. Only if she ends up dissatisfied with the results will she become more open to change.
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