Thanks Jag

I've heard this before about the "tiny" amount of pwo dextrose. That's where you REALLY can't rely on a premix - they're usually forumlated WAY too high. Even 40g PWO dextrose is too much for me, and most premix whey with dextrose has more than 40g dextrose in a 35g protein serving.

I'll check out that forum for more, for sure.

Cheers

I wanted to chime in here about whey protein shakes. I picked up a giant vat of one from the Vitamin Shoppe a few weeks back - for baking, believe it or not. It has absolutely zero carbs and it is sweetened with sucralose. Brand is VPX. I bought the vanilla flavor.

speaking of quality protein powders. I ran into a GNC in town to pick up some and they had a million different kinds. Some were $20, some were $45. I had no clue what to look for. Just the protein count per serving??? Any suggestions on how to tell the quality of protein powders? Also, any good online sources for cheap shake mix?


~ Cori ~

I just use chocolate flavoured, AS whey, whatever's cheap. I don't think it matters as much as some sources SAY it matters, at least unless you are getting ready to compete.

My .02

That's the way I understand it too.


I do HIIT cardio, so the theory is that the metabolic rate stays elevated for an extended period after the workout, so I just use whey & water

I'd say the main things you'd want to look for are:-

g of Protein per serving
g of Carbs per serving
$ per serving

Obviously your ideal will be high protein, low carbs and low $ per serving, assuming it tastes ok!

At the moment I have two brands of whey - the stuff I'd like to use, which everyone raves about at the place I get my supplements (I've just had it delivered so not tried it yet) and is 19.5g protein, 1g of carb for £0.35 a serving. The one I've been using for a while has been on special at my local health shop, and is 17g protein, 1.9g - 2.5g carb (depending on flavour) for £0.26 a serving.

When I need whey, if I can't get the special offer one, I'll buy the expensive good one, but I live with the carbs and slightly less protein for the price at the moment...

I totally agree with you doogieb, on both posts. And HIIT is the bomb!

I just ate like 1/2 a chicken breast about 15 min after my work out. Is this sufficiant? Are the shakes better?

Whey Protein will be absorbed much faster than the chicken.
Chicken is good
Whey is great.
Also, the sooner the better.
Jag

Yeah, fast is really important after lifting.

That's why a whey shake is a good idea - it's all chewed up into small particles, so it goes right in. It's also low fat, so it speeds the delivery into your muscles.

This can also knock you out of ketosis if you do it at other times, though. You can slow it down by eating something fatty and fibrous with it, like a low carb bran muffin with lots of butter. That's what I do if I'm having a whey shake for a meal other than PWO - for example, this is what I usually have for my morning coffee break.

Just wandering about running! Should I drink a shake after doing my run for the day? Would I also benefit?

Personally, I don't do "supplemental" food after cardio - real food only, protein and lots of fat to keep ketosis going. My experience has been that the whey just knocks you out of ketosis.

Probably different if you are running for performance rather than fat loss. But I don't run anymore - the hips and knees just couldn't take it anymore <creak!>

After a work-out I consume 1-2 gallons of water immediatly and don't eat the rest of the day, I would do my workouts in the mid-evening. I've always thought it was best not to eat after working out because that would defeat the whole purpose of working out, to burn calories and lose weight.

...hmmm - depends on what you are trying to do. It also depends on the type of exercise you are doing.

If you are doing cardio, you are best off not eating any more CARBS that day, and keeping your fats ass-high to prevent any protein you eat from glycolyzing. Lots of water is a good idea here (not sure about the one or two GALLONS all at once in the evening though...)

If you are doing weightlifting, the purpose of doing it is actually to cause muscle damange (catabolism), which in turn requires a LOT of energy to rebuild (anabolism). If you don't feed it protein right after lifting, you risk further catabolism of your muscle tissue.

The good news is that if you get this protein in FAST (ie whey shake IMMEDIATELY after lifting), it will get to your muscles while your body is ready to use it.

Drinking that much water all at once can actually be quite a strain on your kidneys. Does your doctor know you are doing this?

Forgive me, but I just read your profile. You're male, 5'7", and want to get DOWN to 120 pounds?

I'm female, 5'8", and would DISAPPEAR if I weighed 120 pounds.

Was this a typo?