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Old Sat, Nov-04-17, 23:16
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Default Original CAD

Does anybody have or remember the Rachel story in the beginning of the CAD book? If I remember correctly, it was about her fasting for a blood test and found she had lost weight the next day. She wondered if she could continue to lose eating this way. The original Intermittent Fasting experiment, long before it became so popular.
If someone could post the story I would greatly appreciate.
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Old Sun, Nov-05-17, 13:24
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that is the story, but in later books they started leaving that out!
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I know! I can't seem to find my original book. Was there anything else to the story? She lost 150 pounds right?
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There is a lot of good stuff (IMHO) on fasting and IF on the "Livin' la vida low carb" podcast. He is very into fasting and IF, and has terrific guests and (my personal favorite) audio recordings of medical and LC/HF conferences and cruises and such. The DIET DOCTOR site also had a lot.

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1993 CAD -
"Rachael's Discovery" (page 6)- she had a test that was rescheduled, so she ended up fasting until after 4 pm. She weighed 268. She writes that after the test she ate soup, salad, veal parm, pasta coffee and 2 crullers. The next day she had lost 2 pounds- and decided to do the same IF schedule the next day. Rachel ate only dinner, and lost 150 pounds.

This story was not repeated in the CALP book (1997), CAHHP (1999) or Healthy for Life (1996). In the 1996 book she says "When I discovered that, by saving these food (carbs- my note) for one of my three daily meals, I could enjoy all of the carbohydrates I loved and needed without suffering the hunger and weight gain....".
In these books, the Hellers explored the concept of insulin resistance/metabolic syndrome. In a later book - one that I don't have - Later, Rachael admitted that she had started to regain weight and went back to IF to maintain and even lose more. I think it was called THE STRESS EATING CURE and came out in 2010.

I choose the CALP plan for me because I believed I had insulin resistance/metabolic syndrome. I also didn't want to weigh/measure my food or count carbs or calories. I liked the idea that I could eat a pretty "normal" dinner as long as I had salad then a balance of carbs/protein and vegies. I am not sure exactly what Rachael Heller did or didn't do to lose weight, but I also think the science behind their plan was solid and still makes sense to me.

I hope this helps.
E

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Me too! Thanks E

My plan is similar to the one meal a day plan that Rachel talked about in the original book. The only difference is the timing of the meal. I only eat one meal at midday and I eat alot, enough to sustain me for the day, but I still have my morning coffee. Its all about the insulin. I know that now. What clicked for me was the info from Dr. Fung, IDM website about the intermittent fasting and the TIMING of meals. We are in a fasted or a fed state. When fed the body doesn't use its own fuel (body fat) for energy, and while fasting it does. The same story as Rachel Heller.
Thanks again for the info.
So I guess I could be called a CAD girl huh?
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Default Stress Eating Cure

In The Stress Eating Cure, Rachael Heller tells the story of the return of her cravings not her weight. (She did not regain weight, and if she ever had, I am sure that we wouldn't know about it, what must have been the strictest secret.) She told her husband about her fear of her cravings because they were as strong as ever and she feared going into a binge that would return her to her old horror. She feared the repercussions of regaining weight after all the books they had written together. It would be the end of everything...their life's work a failure.

Richard realized the implications, and cancelled everything, including an Oprah appearance*, until they could find an answer for this. Was the hyper-insulinemia hypothesis wrong after all? "What in God's name was happening to my wife?"

Rachel went back to her former college for a visit and saw there an old caretaker* who had been so kind to her when she worked at the coffee shop*. He said, "Look at you...and you kept it off all these years!" Then he went on to say what a porker she was then and said so many hurtful things. She was devastated. "If this is what this "kind" man really thought during that time, then why am I trying to please ANYBODY?

Immediately all the cravings were gone! When she told Richard about this, they then began to explore the cortisol connection and developed the stress eating strategy that led to the new book.

Is the hyper-insulinemia theory incorrect? No, but it is incomplete for some people. The hormonal weight/appetite control systems of the human body are complex, confusing, interdependent, and imperfectly understood.
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*I am retelling this off the top of my head. You may wish to check the details. Dialog in quotes are not actual quotations.
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