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Old Sat, Nov-10-12, 19:14
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Default 'Meatless Mondays': LA urges residents to turn vegetarian one day a week

The arguments used to convince the city council to do this are the typical propaganda used by vegans.

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Councilwoman Jan Perry, who introduced the motion with Councilman Ed Reyes, noted the environmental impacts of meat production, and she emphasized that a high-meat diet has been linked to health problems such as colon, prostate, kidney and breast cancers, as well as heart disease. "Eating less meat can prevent and even reverse some of our nation's most common illnesses," Perry said.

"We've become disconnected in some ways from the simple truth that our health is directly affected by the foods we eat,'' she added.
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Old Mon, Nov-12-12, 18:45
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When do we get Wheatless Monday? No-Corn Tuesday? Sugarless Saturday?
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Old Mon, Nov-12-12, 18:56
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I remember reading diet books long ago trying to figure out nutrition and exercise. One book said to go meatless one day a week as a starter. I was hungry all darn day, I tried it twice, didn't work. I lost weight, eating very little, loads of veggies, meat, some grains and some fruit. I'd say I mostly ate veggies and meat though. I was 23 then, so easy to loose weight back then, even with bread.
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Old Mon, Nov-12-12, 19:56
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When do we get Wheatless Monday? No-Corn Tuesday? Sugarless Saturday?


LIKE!!

However, although I disagree with the propaganda used for going meatless, personally I don't think there's anything wrong with having an all-vegetable meal or even an all-vegetable day now and then. Today, for example, I had an omelet for breakfast and 2 pork chops for lunch, but for dinner I made carmelized onions, sauted tomatoes and sauted kale with a sprinkling of shredded cheese on top. It was satiating and absolutely delicious. No need for meat.

However, if going meatless means substituting grains I am absolutely dead set against it!!!!!!
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Old Mon, Nov-12-12, 19:59
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It's an emphasis on the wrong thing. Aside from the nutjob/PCRM types, even the most ardent vegetarian advocates believe that sugar is a huge issue. If it got the play that meat did in the mainstream, these kinds of things would be more credible and balanced.

As it sits, the anti-meat message is just prevalant, and anti-carb is often still seen as a fad.
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Old Mon, Nov-12-12, 22:56
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My hubby is working 1000 miles away and the stress is starting to really get to us. Here we are at the end of today and I realize I didn't have any meat. Just a small olive cheese salad and a tiny potato with a ton of butter and sour cream. Not feeling great right now. And with hubby being away he's also eating way more garbage and he hates it (frozen fish sticks, etc). I don't understand how anyone would advocate eating less meat when it makes people sicker.

I had the opportunity to meet some new people lately and they completely don't get this way of eating. Really intelligent people- brainwashed by the propaganda. Mainstream medicine is also to blame. It's pretty awful out there.
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Old Fri, Nov-16-12, 12:24
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Default Meatless Fruitless Mondays

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From Refuse to Regain
November 15, 2012

Meatless Fruitless Mondays

by Barbara Berkeley, MD

Cue the gorilla in the room. Can you please start roaring and waving your arms? What's that you say? Despite a killing rampage, still no one notices you?

Attention America.

You are dying of diabesity. You are living in a country where 46% of the adult population has some form of impaired sugar metabolism--either pre-diabetes or diabetes itself. Let me shout this. FORTY SIX PERCENT!!!! Adult diabetes is a disease that develops most commonly when people get overfat. Once it happens, it is a disease that revolves around sugar. It is a disease in which insulin, the master hormone that controls sugar in the blood, is not working properly. As a result, too much sugar is made into fat and/or sugar levels get too high in the bloodstream. This problem wreaks havoc and destruction throughout the body.

Our bodies are fastidious about controlling the amount of each and every element that floats within our blood vessels. Sugar is no exception. In the 5 quarts of blood we possess, our blood vessels are allowed to carry one teaspoon of sugar. When we eat foods that turn into sugar after digestion (sugars themselves or starches), untold teaspoons of sugar flood into the bloodstream. If insulin is not working properly, we are in big trouble. And believe me, we are in trouble.

For some reason, our insulin systems are struggling and failing. Could it be something we breathe, something we ingest, something we are exposed to? Or could it simply be the fact that we overtax the sugar system so hugely and so routinely that it eventually quits on us? Either way, we are sugar sick.

Not meat sick.

Last week, a debate arose around a Los Angeles City Council proposal advocating Meatless Mondays in L.A. The usual positions were taken. On one side, those who think that giving up meat is the key to health cheered, on the other, those who are outraged at any suggestion that government might intervene in food choice complained.

While I don't advocate the eating of meat that is poorly raised or stuffed with grain, I don't think that meat is our primary problem. But in this, I do agree. Government should not be making dietary pronouncements without fully exploring their truthfulness and utility.

What do we do when we suggest that people eat less animal protein? For the vast majority of people, we tilt them toward an increased carbohydrate intake by allowing them to substitue pastas and grains. And, lest we forget, this is a country that is sick to death as a result of the sugars that are produced by these foods.

If we are to make a suggestion, why not promote Low-Carb Wednesdays--one day a week that we vow not to eat sugars or starches other than vegetables and fruits? Why not, indeed? Because carbs remain the third rail of dietary politics. Suggestions that people limit the foods that addict them most and kill them most readily invites prosecution for dietary overreach and heresy. Forgo steak for a day? No big deal. Breadless Tuesdays? Forget about it.

The howls that are raised when decreasing carbs is suggested have been enough to drown out the bellowing of the gorilla in the room. But with ever increasing rates of death and disability from our growing sugar problem, it's time to quiet down and listen to the frightening sound that really should be keeping us up at night
http://www.refusetoregain.com/2012/...ss-mondays.html
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Old Sat, Nov-17-12, 14:56
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Very nice piece, Demi. Meat is not our primary problem, but we continue to focus on it. Vegetarians (and food companies) have very active and focused interest groups that continue to keep the focus in the wrong place.
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Old Sat, Nov-17-12, 15:49
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I love veggies like eggplant or broccoli tossed with egg and sauteed/fried in a pan with e.v.o.o. or coconut oil. Yummm.... sometimes with marinara and parmesan cheese on top. It has egg but it is meatless..... :-)
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Old Sat, Nov-17-12, 16:22
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That was a GREAT article. If only it could be picked up by the mainstream media so millions of people could have access to it!
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