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Old Thu, Sep-27-01, 16:20
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Angry for pity's sake....

http://www.femail.co.uk/pages/stand...&in_page_id=172

"Hudson claims nutritional medicine is particularly good for conditions that have a proven link with blood sugar levels like polycystic ovary syndrome, endometriosis and cardiovascular problems.

Polycystic ovaries can be difficult to cope with, he says, but understanding how hormone imbalances are linked with insulin levels in the blood means we can design a low fat diet to eliminate any symptoms. "


Just when you think that somebody's finally "got it", ya get one of THESE articles... doesn't matter whether it's a typo or a genuine lack of comprehension, it's PUBLISHED this way. Dammit.
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Hmm. On the same site I found an article about meat versus vegetarian diets.here

About vegetarian diets, they had this to say about the protein content:

Protein: While vegetarian diets meet protein requirements, they are typically lower in total intake of protein than non-vegetarian diets. This can be more beneficial than a meat diet as excessively high protein intake has been linked to osteoporosis and kidney failure.
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.. as excessively high protein intake has been linked to osteoporosis and kidney failure.


This part is supported by research (kind of). When a diet is high in both protein and carbs.

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Protein: While vegetarian diets meet protein requirements, they are typically lower in total intake of protein than non-vegetarian diets. This can be more beneficial than a meat diet as excessively high protein intake has been linked to osteoporosis and kidney failure.
High protein diets, whether with or without carbs ... have never been proven to damage healthy kidneys. If a person's kidneys are already damaged, from infection or disease, then they need to be careful with protein intake. From Protein Power
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...... There are several key studies that stand out in laying this myth to rest. One study was done in Israel a few years back. It compared people who ate lots of protein to people who had been vegetarians for an average of about thirteen years and who ate minimal amounts of protein. The only protein they got was vegetable protein. Researchers did careful cross-matching so they had a perfect match in terms of age and sex in the two groups. When they compared the normal decline in kidney function that naturally occurs in people as they age, the researchers found no difference between the heavy-protein eaters and the low-protein eaters.

There have also been several studies out of Germany from a group of researchers who studied body builders, who tend to eat lots of protein to build muscle. Those researchers discovered that not only do higher protein diets not cause deterioration, they actually enhance kidney function. The protein itself makes the kidneys function more efficiently.

http://eatprotein.com/answers8.html#8g
High protein diets have never been proven to cause calcium to leach from the bones and cause osteoporosis. Again, from Protein Power
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.........The theory behind this whole idea is that when you eat protein, it’s broken down into substances that are a little bit acidic. Supposedly this more acidic blood somehow leaches the calcium out of the bones, and it can end up giving us osteoporosis, at a later date.

Now all that sounds logical, but in fact it just doesn’t happen. This has been studied extensively over long periods of time. What researchers have found is when people eat a lot of protein, especially meat protein, they don’t have any increase in urinary calcium. In other words, they’re not leaching the calcium out of their bones and losing it in their urine as the theory would imply.

And when we look at the skeletal remains of hunters and gatherers who ate two to three times the amount of protein considered "safe" for us today, you find their bones are 17 percent more dense than ours-given the comparison is done between individuals of the same height and gender.

Lastly, there have been studies published recently that correlate the elevated insulin syndrome with bone loss. Because elevated insulin makes you get rid of calcium from your bones, it may actually be the insulin problem causing the osteoporosis! It certainly isn’t the protein in the diet.

http://eatprotein.com/answers9.html#9f
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This part is supported by research (kind of). When a diet is high in both protein and carbs.


Oops, my comment was not intended for acknowledging the kidneys argument, it was about the osteoporosis. I'm fairly sure their was a study on it. The findings were that it was due to calcium or ptassium deficincy in elserly women.

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What about osteoporosis? I'm fairly sure their was a study on it. The findings were that it was due to calcium or ptassium deficincy in elserly women.

Wa'il [/B]
Um, the second quote in my post above details the Eades' findings about osteoporosis, and no link with high-protien diets. I can try to look up their actual references, if you like



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