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Old Sat, Feb-10-18, 15:00
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The video about how insulin makes us fat on page one is great Janet! I've never seen it explained so well.
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Old Sun, Feb-11-18, 05:58
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Plan: IF Fung/LC Westman/Primal
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Meme,
Like Jean I would have found it hard (no impossible) to sit through.
Assuming she is in or near Medicare it is us who will paying the bills for her emergency room visits and eventual amputations and blindness. That is such a bizarre attitude (at least to me) to take toward her own health, I might resort to the negative reinforcement method...think Dr Fung and Fettke show gangrene limbs and write clearly that controlling BG doesnít little to stop the progression of disease. Maybe her son can get through.

Great that Virta is getting press on this study in even political news!

Also Dr Hallberg's TedTalk has been republished as an article in the BMJ. It can be cited now. Rather than a talk about a study...in reverse order...How cool is that? http://forum.lowcarber.org/showpost...15&postcount=50

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Old Sun, Feb-11-18, 13:54
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Janet, Well guess what DD3's BF's mother did last week to her son who is only in his late 20s and is doing so much better about not eating and drinking sugar to the point that it's almost normal now. Still more to go but headed in the right direction.

DD3 said that MIL to be, baked several dozen of cookies and brought them over in a huge Tupperware container.
Well DD told him to take it to work and let all of them have it...
Of course they ate all of the cookies..YAY!

Here is the strange and ironic thing. It turns out that one of the fellows who works with DD3's BF told BF mother the other day that her cookies were great. It turns out that he lives right next door to her!!
That is beyond coincidence in a city of a couple of million people!!

So now DD3's BF's mother knows that they didn't eat any of the cookies LOLOLOL... good for them, but IDK what she's trying to do to her own son...
Isn't this odd?

It's like the old saying, misery loves company!

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Old Mon, Feb-12-18, 02:33
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Funny....now you can keep the BF supplied with LC sugar free cookies he can share with Mom when she visits. over Xmas, I made two simple recipes with Pyure, Walmart carries it now, my family liked them.
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Old Mon, Feb-12-18, 04:25
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It's a kind of mindblindness going on.

On one level, everyone they know eats this way!

On another, they know they are not "supposed to" but keep deliberately fuzzy about details.

On the deepest level of all, they will admit they have nothing else to look forward to in their day. Of course, that can be changed; but some people have a terrible struggle with that.
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Old Mon, Feb-12-18, 07:28
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In a way, I understand the way their struggle - Their bodies are screaming for foods that are designed to be addictive. They probably feel like they have no choice - and truthfully, in the midst of carb addiction, they don't really have much choice. The reasoning part of the mind is overwhelmed, desperate for their next "fix", at least in part because of the massive amounts of insulin their body is pumping out, plus whatever amount of additional insulin they're injecting in an attempt to handle the massive amount of blood sugar.

They may or may not have their come-to-Jesus moment when the doctor says "I'm very sorry, but you are going blind, a side effect of uncontrolled diabetes", or "we have no choice but to amputate". Even then, they may not be able to give up their drug of choice, because they've gone so many years feeding their addiction. They're already of the belief that carbs are the only thing they have to look forward to in their day, so how much stronger will that attitude be if they don't even have sight or walking to look forward to?

I know it's sad and very frustrating to watch. But you can't make the decision for them. It's not like you can have them committed to a rehab facility to get off carbs. And even if you could, think about how many drug addicts slip back into their drug habit after going through rehab. There's a huge psychological component that needs to be addressed, and while others can help the addict through that part, the addict still needs to really want to change.
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Meme#1, how odd about your DDís future MIL. I know a lot of people who eat lots of sugary things, but none of them actually *brag* about it! And to sabotage her son like that? My son and I talk a lot about diet. We donít really agree in many ways. He is very opposed to a low carb diet and always eats plenty of carbs and makes sure his kids get plenty of carbs. But if Iím cooking for him and his family I make foods that respect their choices, and always include a side like rice 🍚 or potatoes 🥔. And you know what they say? You canít argue with results. Oh his pretty high carb diet, but implementing some IF, he has lost 50+ pounds in the last year, looks fantastic, and is fitting into clothes he has not worn in nearly 10 years. Whereas Iím still stalled at the same weight Iíve always stalled at for 20 years on and off.
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Old Tue, Feb-13-18, 09:47
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Yes Merpic, Bragging and sabotaging her son Is very strange.
At one point during x-mas dinner there was something being said about his mother's Cokes, I was talking to someone else so only half way heard it, but BF looked at me and said, I'm drinking sugar free tea and I'm really getting use to it this way now! I replied, that's good! I sort of glanced at her, his mother, to see her reaction and I saw none. She's refusing to recognize that he NEEDS to eat this way, never mind what she's doing.
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