FEW are those who are 'called' and fewer yet are those who are 'chosen'.

I can think of some on this thread who have tried, like Rob, and a few I no longer keep in touch with who also tried it for a while. I think my son Starfinder is honestly trying, he understands the carnivory of humans very well from his extensive veterinary training, but he still finds it hard, and is not always totally strict, like I am today - but on the path, falling off from time to time- just a little as I did. He is only 35.

Everyone who is truly interested in this lifestyle will have an uphill battle against their acculturation. This is compounded by all your friends and family who will go to any end to try to get you to eat as they think you should. This is social again. Never underestimate the incredible power of the human societal culture and everyone's early training, it is what makes us human, and different from all other animals. The only thing more difficult to alter than you early acculturation is your skin colour... Hang in there. If I could do it, anyone can.

Hey- Michael Jackson even managed to change his skin colour.... sort of.

theBear...this is one of the most informative threads on this site and as Dean has said previously, people have been peeking in and going on to other threads quoting info from here. More and more people are willing to try this way of eating simply because they secretly always enjoyed meat eating and vegetables were an uncomfortable issue with them when they were with others. They have been pointed in a different direction and they see the light! There is nothing that speaks more eloquently than a person's 47 year personal experience. I am much more interested in that than a skewed "research" book. There are enough of those that are out there.

If you ask me, he was also able to change his species ... sort of.

He says he has vitillago which is an autoimmune disease that depigments your skin.

Only this time I'm listening to the man's advice!

I've been strict for 35 days now (but who's counting? ) and it's really starting to show. I'm losing it much faster this time than previously, since I'm already wearing clothes that I was wearing after 3 months on the diet that I tried to start in Jan 2005. Also, for me, being strict is giving me a vested interest in continuing to be strict because I don't want to blow it.

I think I've only had chicken 3-4 times in the last month, and some <1gm lunchmeat here and there on a couple weekends, but vary sparsley because I can really taste the preservatives and high salt. Outside of that I buy whatever beef I can on sale (mostly round steaks, chuck steaks, sirloins, lond on broils), lots of eggs and slices of cheese. The only spices I use are maybe a little pepper, but I like the meat plain for the most part. So far it's been easier now that I'm much stricter and I don't have the intense cravings like before, when I was using all the low-carb products.

And I've really gotten into the raw meat thing too. Matter of fact, eating a london broil bleu right now! Thanks Bear, once again, for showing me the path.

WOW Bear, I just read the your first post. What an eye opener. I'm just sitting here trying to soak this all in.
It's what my grandfather always said (he's been gone for 35 years now) and he was a pure meat eater. I just never really paid attention.
Whoa, my jaw is still on the ground...

LOL!!! That is too funny!!!

I have decided to forego cheese for a while, because of the salt content; see if it makes a difference. I have been on the all meat diet for a month now, and I've lost 3 lbs; not much, but with all the calories I am ingesting, it is a wonder that I am not gaining weight! This really works. Thank you Bear. I wish I had known about this forty years ago!

That's interesting Amber, about your Grandfather being only a meat eater. What year was he born and where? What nationality was he? Was he a hunter or did he shop at the A&P? Did he live a healthy life?

Bear -

I know you said that moderate vitamin supplementation shouldn't be a problem on an all animal product diet, but what about taking supplemental fish oil? I personally like taking this because I notice a lot less joint pain/inflammation from my sports training than when I don't take it. However I have heard that taking fish oil can reduce vitamin E levels, and also other things like it can raise blood sugar too much and suppress immune function. So I take vitamin E, but I'm not sure how much good that does me.

But surely, even though the active oils EPA and DHA are polyunsaturates, they are in fact animal fats, so should fit in with the whole animal fat concept no? I've always thought flax seed oil was dodgy - for instance it is not really recommended for people with bipolar illness, but fish oil definitely is.

When I was a vegan (shock horror - it did happen), I got very weak and had awful health problems including depression and was hyperactive all the time. I added in fish oil and felt great so even though I ditched my vegan ways and went back to low-carb high animal fat I have kept taking the fish oil.

Thoughts anyone? Does anyone else here take fish oil?

Bear,
i want to report that i made the cheese eggwich today!!

Here is my results..it was a mess!! lol. i think my pan was too big (smallest frying pan i own though). The eggs spread out in the whole pan. When i put the 2 eggs on top, they started sliding off. i couldnt flip it correctly, it broke up somewhat!! lol
BUT..here is the good news! i loved it...wow chili powder and pepper added some yumm to it!! i love the consistency also, which is different then just putting cheese on top of fried eggs! I really thought it was quite tasty and will definitely make it again, maybe ill get better at it as i go!
5 eggs was ALOT for me..im quite full now! Is there a way i could use less eggs? like 2 on bottom and 1 on top, instead of 3 on bottom and 2 on top? would it work?? i doubt ill be hungry again till dinner..im full!
Thanks for the recipe Bear!

I had the same problem making the egg-wich or whatever it's called. Top eggs just slopped to the side, and by the time I was done it looked more like a cheese omelette than anything else. How IS this different from a cheese omelette other than you don't mix the eggs together beforehand?

why do vegans make all there food taste like meat i.e. mock pork,chick,beef if they are SSSSOOOO grossed out by real meat??

LOL..good question! how bout those tofu hotdogs? soy burgers? lol..never thought about it..but ya..they eat FAKE meat!!

i am getting really GRUMPY!!! my body is craving all kinds of bad things today! i guess its my body trying to get rid of those carbs, right? arghhhh! i hate this! ok..i am gonna press through this ....