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Old Wed, Apr-04-12, 15:00
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"Have you read the part of Atkins that talks about phase II, Ongoing weightloss?"

Judy, I am in induction. I understood that I could stay here until I had lost a significant amount of weight and then could go to a different phase. I have lost only 14 pounds in one and a half months.

I was trying to break a "stall" while in induction. Or maybe I should say a VERY SLOW WEIGHT LOSS, not a complete stall.

I have personally observed through calorie diets that I could shock my metabolism and jump start weight loss again. I understood that this could be done on Atkins, too, which is what I was attempting to do.
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Old Wed, Apr-04-12, 15:05
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"Have you read the part of Atkins that talks about phase II, Ongoing weightloss?"

Judy, I am in induction. I understood that I could stay here until I had lost a significant amount of weight and then could go to a different phase. I have lost only 14 pounds in one and a half months.

I was trying to break a "stall" while in induction. Or maybe I should say a VERY SLOW WEIGHT LOSS, not a complete stall.

I have personally observed through calorie diets that I could shock my metabolism and jump start weight loss again. I understood that this could be done on Atkins, too, which is what I was attempting to do.

I think that you should read the entire Atkins book so that you learn about the whole process., not just Induction.

You're not really in a stall. Following the plan by the book is the way for you for now. Its time for you to move out of Induction and onto OWL phase2, add in some starchy veggies.
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Old Wed, Apr-04-12, 17:54
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I think that you should read the entire Atkins book so that you learn about the whole process., not just Induction.

You're not really in a stall. Following the plan by the book is the way for you for now. Its time for you to move out of Induction and onto OWL phase2, add in some starchy veggies.


I agree...it could be time to move to OWL....but....starchy vegetables is run 8 on the carb ladder. Need to work thru the first 7 rungs before jumping to rung 8. This is the time that you determine your CCL and CCM---mandatory to maintain sucess when you get to maintenance.


With that said...

Did I miss something major in this conversation???

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I have lost only 14 pounds in one and a half
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When is this considered poor progress??! 14 pounds in 6 weeks is excellent progress. Perhaps this really isn't an issue of food, but of plain, good ole' fashioned patience. (I wished I could have lost 14 pounds in 6 weeks)

Progress not perfection.

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Old Wed, Apr-04-12, 17:58
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I agree...it could be time to move to OWL....but....starchy vegetables is run 8 on the carb ladder. Need to work thru the first 7 rungs before jumping to rung 8. This is the time that you determine your CCL and CCM---mandatory to maintain sucess when you get to maintenance.


With that said...

Did I miss something major in this conversation???

Its about time you got back to this!
Here's a link to the OWL thread that Lisa put together for people like you, Pollyanna!

http://forum.lowcarber.org/showthread.php?t=409812





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When is this considered poor progress??! 14 pounds in 6 weeks is excellent progress. Perhaps this really isn't an issue of food, but of plain, good ole' fashioned patience. (I wished I could have lost 14 pounds in 6 weeks)


Lisa is right! You are actually doing great!
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Old Thu, Apr-05-12, 02:39
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Thanks, everyone. I just wanted to lose as fast as some of the authors of some of the success stories have! Why can't I? Am I chopped liver? I will try to be more patient. Thank you for the advice.
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Old Thu, Apr-05-12, 08:12
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Thanks, everyone. I just wanted to lose as fast as some of the authors of some of the success stories have! Why can't I? Am I chopped liver? I will try to be more patient. Thank you for the advice.

No, you are not chopped liver!
Our age will make it so that we need to accept our rate of loss as a bit slower than when we were yonger.
As we age, we lose muscle mass. With less muscle, we lose more slowly.
Are you doing any exercise to build up your muscles?
Any walking?
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Old Thu, Apr-05-12, 10:13
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pollyanna1 - I just wanted to lose as fast as some of the authors of some of the success stories have!


I'd be willing to bet that the people you are comparing yourself to with a greater rate of loss are either much heavier to begin with, men, younger or some combination of the three.

I think we all want to lose the weight yesterday but what I wonder is, has staying on induction for a long time while losing and then adding carbs after the weight loss not resulted in weight regain for people? Perhaps it can work that way, but my impression from posts here is otherwise.
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Old Thu, Apr-05-12, 17:59
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"Are you doing any exercise to build up your muscles?
Any walking?"

I don't enjoy walking but today I got a new mini-trampoline rebounder. What fun! The literature says that 10 minutes on it is equal to a one-mile brisk walk. I am going to love using it! One poster (forgot who) said that rebounding tightens up skin, so I certainly can use that AND the cardio exercise.
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Old Thu, Apr-05-12, 18:06
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I'd be willing to bet that the people you are comparing yourself to with a greater rate of loss are either much heavier to begin with, men, younger or some combination of the three.

I think we all want to lose the weight yesterday but what I wonder is, has staying on induction for a long time while losing and then adding carbs after the weight loss not resulted in weight regain for people? Perhaps it can work that way, but my impression from posts here is otherwise.


When I was younger, I could go on a 1000 calorie diet and lose 10 pounds in a month - easily. I remember losing 30 pounds in 3 months and my husband lost 40 pounds in 3 months.

But things have changed. I tried a calorie diet two years ago, lost 20 pounds, hit a 3 month plateau and got discouraged. I put it all back on - AND MORE. That was the first time that I had ever dieted and quickly put it right back on.

I began calorie dieting the first of this year and lost 10 pounds and then stalled. So I switched to Atkins and have lost 14 pounds. I suspect that Atkins can keep me from such long stalls and plateaus????

I am anxious to GET THIS WEIGHT OFF - NOW!!!!!!!
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Old Thu, Apr-05-12, 18:43
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The problem with calorie diets is sometimes you don't get enough protein and nutrients, if they are carb-heavy, and then you lose muscle mass and slow down your metabolism. that is the setup for the regain. So when you were younger, you started out with more muscle mass and a higher metabolism. But after that? hm

It sounds like you are a small older woman? I am too and I watch for this after I learned it in fitness school. Half a pound of FAT a week is a great rate for us to lose with and keep skin tight and keep muscle health. The fitness shriekers on infomercials who say to lose two pounds a week? that is best case with a young male!
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Old Fri, Apr-06-12, 02:45
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It sounds like you are a small older woman? I am too and I watch for this after I learned it in fitness school. Half a pound of FAT a week is a great rate for us to lose with and keep skin tight and keep muscle health. The fitness shriekers on infomercials who say to lose two pounds a week? that is best case with a young male!"

Exactly! I am 61 and 5'2". Thanks for the half pound warning, but I sure hope I can do better than that!!!
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Old Thu, Apr-19-12, 17:15
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Doctor warns against rebounding if 45+ years old.

Forgive duplicates, but I need to say this in EVERY POST where I recommended a rebounder.

http://forum.lowcarber.org/showthread.php?t=441596
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Old Thu, Apr-19-12, 18:21
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Thanks for thinking of us Miss Pollyanna1.

Just a thought - that is quite the blanket statement. Physical limitations over the age of 45 are individual based on lifestyle too. It's not automatically age.

Personally I would get an assessment from a fitness professional and my own eye doc before accepting such a limitation. MDs act like they are, but are NOT educated or qualified in food and movement. They are qualified for treating injury and illness with drugs and surgery, period.

Of course sure they can say, "based on what we see, you shouldn't jump if your retina can detach." But they are not thinking beyond that - how much jump, why are your retinas in that shape, do you have a high insulin lifestyle from no low level movement and so on and so forth.

I get the feeling sometimes that all docs want us to "walk" ie shuffle slowly as our ONLY "safe" exercise, as little old ladies, until we get even more frail and voila! bring on the blood thinners, HBP drugs, osteo drugs - all of which could be prevented by rebounding! sheesh.
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Old Tue, May-01-12, 10:26
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I get the feeling sometimes that all docs want us to "walk" ie shuffle slowly as our ONLY "safe" exercise, as little old ladies, until we get even more frail and voila! bring on the blood thinners, HBP drugs, osteo drugs - all of which could be prevented by rebounding! sheesh.


They get kickbacks from Big Pharma, of course, so yes, that's what they want. I'm only 41 but I'm grateful that my doctor is a young woman who would rather I be healthy than doped half to death. She doesn't like me doing Atkins but she's happy to see that I'm getting veggies in, and that even though I have lost very little weight, my BP has come down significantly in a couple of months (to a high-normal level, albeit with meds. Soon I will be normal without!).
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