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Old Thu, Apr-24-14, 13:07
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I'd go by total grams of protein and carb, not percentages, since if you vary the total calories, then the %'s isn't terribly meaningful.

It might be useful to do a strict Seyfried diet for a month every year, just to knock out any cancers that are starting up.
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Old Sat, Apr-26-14, 00:47
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As I recall, Seyfried recommends that everyone fast for a full week at least once a year in order to try and kill off any small cancers that might be growing within the body, and he means a complete water only fast.
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Originally Posted by JEY100
There are two excellent books on how to "Fight Cancer with a Ketogenic Diet."
I have the one based on the work of Dr. Seyfried and D'Agostino.

http://www.ketogenic-diet-resource.com/cancer-diet.html


I was checking out this book and thought it pretty darned pricey at $25 for 134 pages.

Also, I was looking at the table of contents of this ebook and noticed there is a whole chapter on who should NOT be using this diet. Can you give me a hint as to who the author advises should not use this plan? Kinda hate to buy a book only to be told I should not use the book's diet.
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This book is a great resource with many links to other sites as well as a guide to implementing a Keto diet for people in active cancer treatment, or epilepsy, etc. When you spend $10K/mo on treatment, the $24 is worth it. I bought to try myself before suggesting it to anyone in treatment and to my oncologist, contacts maintained through community involvement. It is HARD. This book suggests a three day water fast to start. Then it is calorie controlled, so back to weighing and measuring and calculating ratios precisely. The other Cancer diet book from DietaryTherapies is $22.95..haven't seen that one.

But the three groups are....

The first group of contraindicated diseases are metabolic ones, mostly complex unusual ones that would have been diagnosed early in your life, e.g. Carnitine translocase deficiency.

The second group are Health Conditions. E.g. Active gall bladder disease, liver failure, poor nutritional status, and if you have any of this list, need to talk to doctor about KD, you may still be able to use it.

The third group is a few medications, mainly anti-seizure meds and diuretics (need to tritrate them down due to Keto diuretic effect)
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Just marking this thread to read later.
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Old Sat, Apr-26-14, 23:20
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Thanks so much for that info, Janet.
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Old Sun, Apr-27-14, 06:02
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Yet, inspite of this, all over the internet are so called studies of how "wholegrain" is protective against certain cancers????

Jo xxx
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Old Sun, Apr-27-14, 08:26
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The way I figure it is this:

When they suspect cancer, what do they often do? They add some kind of tracer to sugar, and see where the sugar goes. It goes straight to the greedy cancer cells.

So using logic, it seems that not eating sugar (or food that converts to sugar) should prevent and possibly be an adjunct therapy for cancer.

But I'm not a scientist so I could be wrong about that.

Bob
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