Originally Posted by DaveKeto

Hi guys!

As it happens, this forum was one of the first places I came to when I was first doing the research. (Peek at my history if curious)

Originally Posted by GRB5111

The video explains a lot. My last two NMR Lipid Panel results are good examples. The first when I was on a multi-day fast, 4-5 days at the time of the blood draw showed LDL-C extremely high, yet my HDL & Tri numbers were very much in the healthy range with HDL being higher. For my most recent NMR LP, I eliminated dairy for 30 days, but consumed my normal combination of healthy fats (saturated, mono, and omega 3s & 6s) and did a standard 12-hour fast prior to the blood draw, and received results that showed everything being in a very healthy range (based on today's interpretation of what represents lipid health) with a much lower LDL reading.

It made me realize I can control the results by diet and caused me to question whether blood lipids are really a valid health marker without considering other variables. Since my CRP in the last test was 0.4, it also made me realize that dairy could likely be causing inflammation for me. By doing a straight 12-hour fast and dairy elimination prior to the blood draw, I can make my numbers look great and avoid the inevitable statin discussion with my doctor.

Originally Posted by teaser

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One thing that came to mind watching your video is Jimmy Moore, his latest lipid panels showed great improvement in his particle count, his ldl cholesterol is down as well. He's been doing some long fasts--if he's not calorie restricting when he's not fasting, his appetite and fat intake is likely to be increased over what it was when he was doing ketogenic ratios.

Originally Posted by andante

Hey thanks, GRB -- I too need to circumvent that statin discussion.

10 months into low carb, 70 + pound weight loss, and my ldl had shot up to nearly 200. (A few years ago -- last time tested -- I was very overweight, but my LDL was only 108.)

I think it may be because I am still losing weight and in ketosis, hence blood lipids are reflecting the fact that MY fat is fueling me and in my bloodstream????

My HDL had gone up to 69. Triglycerides were in the normal range -- 140 -- but that is too high for low carbing.

So I am now doing the flaxseed muffin thing, and am cutting back on dairy and upping the fish oil, sardines, fish consumption, avocados, and olive oil.

I am close to my goal weight and am hoping my cholesterol profile looks better.

My doc is MOSTLY on board with low carb, but he has some traditionalist blind spots (like about bacon!!!) and LDL numbers... however, he is willing to wait and see where I stabilize, and also order a particle size test. I am pretty sure when I do all that, and am at goal weight, the issue will resolve itself.

I am NOT going on statins, no matter what... but I wouldn't mind getting those numbers at least in a less "smoke alarm" range.

Originally Posted by Squarecube

Oh please, don't tell the Docs about this.

I like cheating. I only want to do this to cuz I read/learned over the years how little these numbers mean and I'm tired of hearing 'bout my fantastic HDL, my fantastic Trigs, but oh, dear your LDL is a bit elevated. Yes, your site makes it clear changing these numbers isn't to improve health, but to illustrate how dynamic they are

And yes, I too, want to be an old lady. I have an 80 year old neighbor, female, whose total Cholesterol is slightly elevated, now she's on statins

Originally Posted by DaveKeto

I find hsCRP is most impacted for me by exercise. While generally <1.0 for me, it has been in the double digits 1-2 days following a half marathon / full marathon. So keep this in mind when interpreting in case you've had intensive exercise recently before.

Originally Posted by andante

I think it may be because I am still losing weight and in ketosis, hence blood lipids are reflecting the fact that MY fat is fueling me and in my bloodstream????