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Old Mon, Jun-24-13, 12:14
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I finally found an explanation. http://www.clotcare.com/vitaminkandwarfarin.aspx

I think the issue is really only an issue if you're on Warfarin.

Ahhh, thanks!

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When you take a blood thinner, K2 interferes with it's effectiveness.
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Old Mon, Jun-24-13, 16:13
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OMG. You may just have saved my sanity. Going to the surgical supply place Judy recommended this week to ask about a frame. I was late for work this morning due to fighting with a pair of stockings. You try explaining that to your boss.


The frame is used especially when putting the sock over the bandage. I don't use one and I like a tight fit. Then again I don't have long fingernails. If the G sock rips, put a paper towel between it and your leg and then put fingernail polish on the ends of the runs. That works for me. On the bunching up around the toes, do your feet swell? If not then you may want your next set of G socks to be open toe. If you have a problem with the sock slipping after you put it on, I recommend Jobst body adhesive.

It gets better I swear. You'll get quicker at putting the sock on, budget an extra five minutes in the morning to do it, remember to dry your socks the night before, get used to it, watch the swelling go down a bit, etc. etc. Like I said before, I turkey hunt with a sock on and some mornings that can be three to five miles of walking through ditches and brambles. You'll figure it out and it will be at least bearable if not also forgettable.
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Old Mon, Jun-24-13, 18:45
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Inflammabl: fantastically helpful advice, thank you.

Leemack: You really have saved my sanity with the frame, which I bought tonight on the way home from work. The stockings were comfortable to wear all day but tonight I walked for a hour in 90 degree heat (because I'm an idiot I guess) and when I took the stockings off at home both legs were covered in heat bumps. The adhesive/elastic thigh tops had left a heat rash in welts around my thighs. Hopefully it will all be gone by morning.

The other thing I think I did wrong was to put them on this morning after moisturizing my skin. It's probably better to use talcum powder not moisturizer.

Anyway, I practised tonight with the frame. It's actually not easy getting these bloody stockings over the frame either! But at least I know what I'm in for tomorrow morning and once the stockings were on the frame it was very easy to put them on my legs.

Love these forums. There are experienced folks on every subject under the sun here.
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Old Mon, Jun-24-13, 19:23
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Inflammabl: fantastically helpful advice, thank you.

Leemack: You really have saved my sanity with the frame, which I bought tonight on the way home from work. The stockings were comfortable to wear all day but tonight I walked for a hour in 90 degree heat (because I'm an idiot I guess) and when I took the stockings off at home both legs were covered in heat bumps. The adhesive/elastic thigh tops had left a heat rash in welts around my thighs. Hopefully it will all be gone by morning.

The other thing I think I did wrong was to put them on this morning after moisturizing my skin. It's probably better to use talcum powder not moisturizer.

Anyway, I practised tonight with the frame. It's actually not easy getting these bloody stockings over the frame either! But at least I know what I'm in for tomorrow morning and once the stockings were on the frame it was very easy to put them on my legs.

Love these forums. There are experienced folks on every subject under the sun here.



Glad to be of help .
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Old Wed, Jun-26-13, 12:15
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Oh goody! I found some good news about K2 and clotting:

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Blood clotting (coagulation) studies in humans using 45 mg per day of vitamin K2 (as MK-4)[27] and even up to 135 mg/day (45 mg three times daily) of K2 (as MK-4),[73] showed no increase in blood clot risk. Even doses in rats as high as 250 mg/kg body weight did not alter the tendency for blood-clot formation to occur.[74]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_K
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Old Sat, Jun-29-13, 07:55
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I got this email from the supporthosestore.com:

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Chronic Venous Insufficiency (CVI) is one of the leading causes of swollen feet, ankles and legs.
Someone with CVI may experience:
• Ankle swelling
• Tight feeling calves
• Heavy, tired, restless or achy legs
• Pain while walking or shortly after stopping
There are several things that can cause CVI. Ultimately, long-term blood pressure in the leg veins that is higher than normal can causes CVI. If the valves in the veins are damaged blood can pool in the lower extremities and cause varicose veins. Sitting or standing can stretch the superficial vein walls and damage the valves in the veins which keep blood from flowing back down the legs.

DVT happens when a blood clot (thrombus) blocks the blood flow back to the heart out of the deep veins or perforating veins, which connect the deep veins to the superficial veins. Deep vein thrombosis (dvt) can also cause CVI, because it blocks the flow of blood back to the heart and elevates the pressure inside the veins.
Factors that increase your risk of CVI include:
• Family history of varicose veins
• Being overweight
• Not exercising enough
• Being pregnant
• Smoking
• Sitting or standing for long periods of time
CVI can be diagnosed by your physician by taking your patient history and physical exam. The physician may also measure the blood pressure in your legs and examine any varicose veins you may have. To confirm a diagnosis of CVI, the physician will usually order a duplex ultrasound or a venogram. A duplex ultrasound uses sound waves to measure the speed of blood flow and visualizes the structure of the leg veins. A venogram is an x-ray that uses a dye (contrast) which enables the physician to see the veins.

Chronic venous insufficiency is usually not considered a health risk; your physician will try to decrease your pain and disability. In mild cases of CVI, compression stockings or compression socks may alleviate the discomfort and swelling. Physicians usually use a 20-30mmHg compression stocking or a 20-30mmHg compression sock for this. The stockings will not make the varicosities go away, but is the least invasive treatment.

More serious cases may require sclerotherapy, ablation, or surgical intervention such as stripping to correct the problematic vein. This is usually done by a vascular specialist or vascular surgeon. During sclerotherapy a chemical is injected in the affected vein or veins and a scar will form from the inside of the vein. During ablation a thin, flexible tube (catheter) with an electrode at the tip will heat the vein walls at the appropriate location to seal the vein. When a vein stripping is done one of the saphenous veins is removed. The physician will make a small incision in the groin area and usually another in the calf below the knee. The veins associated with the saphenous vein will be disconnected and tied off and the vein removed. There are other surgical procedures which are done to improve your leg health. After one of the above procedures 20-30mmHg compression stockings are usually put on and you are told to wear them for a certain length of time. Some physicians will tell their patients on their follow-up visit that it is no longer necessary to wear the compression garments. For me, this is where I have some concerns. If the real underlining cause of CVI (such as family history of varicose veins, being overweight, not exercising enough, smoking or sitting or standing for long periods of time) has not been corrected why would you not continue to wear compression stockings to keep from developing CVI again.

Compression stockings and socks have come a long way in the last few years. They no longer look like the garments our grandparents wore. They look like ordinary stockings and socks. The stigma of wearing compression garments is past.
If you have comments you would like to leave click here, click on the title "Chronic Venous Insufficiency", and go to the bottom of the blog entry.

Here's to feet, ankles, and legs that are no longer swollen,
Vanda
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Old Sat, Jun-29-13, 11:31
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I had my second surgery (radio frequency ablation) for CVI yesterday. It's the method of inserting a catheter into the vein and then injecting heat into it that collapses the vein. A local anesthetic is administered. I'm not going to say it's painless but it's certainly bearable. The doctor assured me there were no blood clots showing up on the sonagram.

I don't have to go back for another 3 weeks, giving the wounds time to heal, and the surgeon said I only have to wear the compression stockings for another couple of days. BTW it took 2 nurses to get the stockings on me after the surgery. However, much as I HATE them, I do agree with the author of that article and I intend to buy myself some socks (not stockings) and continue to wear them anyway - at least when I'm at work in air conditioning; probably not when I'm walking around outside in the heat of July and August. Also I'll definitely wear them in winter under pants. Why? Because I don't want to go through this operation again if I can help it!

Along with these surgeries, the doctor also spent a lot of time performing some cosmetic sclerotherapy on the hundreds (thousands?) of spider veins the venal insufficiencies have caused over time. I'll need a lot of visits (not covered by insurance) but by next spring I should have beach-worthy legs again for the first time in a decade. To me, it's worth it, as and when I can afford it. I think of it as maintaining myself as I get older, like teeth whitening.
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Old Sat, Jun-29-13, 11:37
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I hope you continue to heal well! I think you're wise to keep wearing them, Whofan.
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Old Mon, Aug-05-13, 09:30
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3) Fidget and flap your feet a lot when you're seated a long time and/or get up and walk a bit.
I do lots of long-distance driving - such as the nearly 2000-miles each way I did to Canada earlier in the summer, and later this week I'll be driving 500+ miles to a family wedding in NC. I admit that when I get "in the groove" I totally hate to stop, get out, walk around, etc. But I do flap my feet a lot. I put the car on cruise control and almost constantly flap my feet and legs around, and do sort of a seated 'dance'.
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Old Thu, Oct-17-13, 18:17
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My vascular surgeon asked me today if I'd like to go on the Dr. Oz show tomorrow! Oz wants him to demonstrate a certain technique (not the one he's been using on me). I said no. I have no interest in millions of people seeing me getting my veins done. Look for my doctor, though, if you catch the show. He's ridiculously handsome. Which is probably why Oz likes to have him on.
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