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Old Thu, May-11-17, 19:38
Phantomess Phantomess is offline
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Default Large Ketones

I'm wondering - why don't I ever have large ketones? I've slipped up I think twice in the past 6-7 weeks that I've been doing this, but I never get anything higher than moderate ketones. Does it matter? What does it mean to have lrge ketones?
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Old Thu, May-11-17, 19:49
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It is my opinion that it does not matter and can in fact be confusing. If you follow my journal I'm measuring for this month Pee and Breath ketones or Peetones and Breathtones along with activity and estimated net carb count.

There are certain patterns that emerge but my guess is that if you see something on the stick, stop fussing - you are there.

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Old Fri, May-12-17, 05:29
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Urine ketones won't be elevated unless blood ketones have been elevated some time in the fairly recent past. But it is possible for blood ketones to be elevated without urine ketones being elevated. A few things, level of hydration can affect ketone levels--drink twice as much water, pee twice as much, and the concentration can go down. Also the kidneys get a big vote on ketone levels, the kidney's are capable of reabsorbing ketones from the bladder so that very little ketones appear in the urine, even at starvation levels of ketosis, one study in the 60's had urine ketones very low even at five weeks or more of starvation in obese subjects given as little as 8.5 grams of glucose a day--urine ketones disappeared, blood ketones remained as high as without the glucose. Also, this tiny amount of glucose spared 12 grams of protein a day in these subjects--about enough to make that 8.5 grams of glucose they were fed. I like the urine strips, they help me stay honest on a ketogenic diet, I try not to read too much into them.
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Old Sat, May-13-17, 15:58
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Thank you both!
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Old Sat, May-13-17, 23:36
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Are you diabetic or 'pre'?

I read a link from this site not too long ago, how some diabetics aren't good ketone producers...I personally never turned the sticks dark even on induction levels. (T2)
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Old Sun, May-14-17, 06:36
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Are you diabetic or 'pre'?

I read a link from this site not too long ago, how some diabetics aren't good ketone producers...I personally never turned the sticks dark even on induction levels. (T2)


I'm not, actually. It does run on my father's side of the family so I do worry about it a bit.
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