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Old Fri, Aug-01-14, 08:59
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Default Ötzi the Iceman predisposed to heart disease

URL: http://news.discovery.com/history/a...gene-140731.htm

To me, this just confirms that mainstream medical researchers don't understand how diet contributes to CVD. There's no way to accurately know if Ötzi's food consistently had the co-factors required for healthy calcium metabolism: magnesium (though likely), boron, silica, vit. D3 (although that's likely), vit. K-2 MK-4.
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Ötzi the Iceman, a well-preserved mummy discovered in the Alps, may have had a genetic predisposition to heart disease, new research suggests.

The new finding may explain why the man — who lived 5,300 years ago, stayed active and certainly didn't smoke or wolf down processed food in front of the TV — nevertheless had hardened arteries when he was felled by an arrow and bled to death on an alpine glacier.

"We were very surprised that he had a very strong disposition for cardiovascular disease," said study co-author Albert Zink, a paleopathologist at the Institute for Mummies and the Iceman at the European Academy of Bozen/Bolzano in Italy. "We didn't expect that people who lived so long ago already had the genetic setup for getting such kinds of diseases."

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Otzi was discovered in 1991, when two hikers stumbled upon the well-preserved mummy in the Ötztal Alps, near the border between Austria and Italy. Since then, every detail of the iceman has been scrutinized, from his last meal and moments (Ötzi was bashed on the head before being pierced by the deadly arrow blow), to where he grew up, to his fashion sense.

Past research has revealed that Ötzi likely suffered from joint pain, Lyme disease and tooth decay, and computed tomography (CT) scanning revealed calcium buildups, a sign of atherosclerosis, in his arteries.

Initially, the atherosclerosis was a bit of a surprise, because much research has linked heart disease to the couch-potato lifestyle and calorie-rich foods of the modern world, Zink said. But in recent research, as scientists conducted CT scans on mummies from the Aleutian Islands to ancient Egypt, they realized that heart disease and atherosclerosis were prevalent throughout antiquity, in people who had dramatically different diets and lifestyles, he said.

"It really looks like the disease was already frequent in ancient times, so it's not a pure civilizational disease," Zink told Live Science.

Heart troubles

Scientists recently took a small sample of Ötzi's hipbone and sequenced the Neolithic agriculturalist's entire genome, to see where he fell on Europe's family tree. As part of that research, they found that the iceman had 19 living relatives in Europe.

In the new study, Zink and his colleagues found that Ötzi had several gene variants associated with cardiovascular disease, including one on the ninth chromosome that is strongly tied to heart troubles, the researchers reported today (July 30) in the journal Global Heart.

Despite spending years hiking in hilly terrain, it seems Ötzi couldn't walk off his genetic predisposition to heart disease.

"He didn't smoke; he was very active; he walked a lot; he was not obese," Zink said. "But nevertheless, he already developed some atherosclerosis."

The findings suggest that genetics play a stronger role in heart disease than previously thought, he said.

To follow up, the team would like to compare the genetic makeup of other mummies with the state of their arteries, to tease out just how much of a role genetics play in heart disease, Zink said. It would also be interesting to see whether ancient mummies exhibit signs of inflammation, the body's response to infection or damage, that has been tied to heart attacks, he added.
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The early grain eaters were not healthy people. I'm not surprised he was so diseased.
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I just visited him in Bolzano, Italy. Was going to be in Northern Italy and could not pass it by.

He did not smoke but he ate grains, evidence in his stomach and worn teeth from stone grinding grains. Einkorn (wild wheat), meat, vegetables and a lot of fat were found in his stomach along with charcoal. The food was cooked over an open fire.

He had little to no body fat. His lungs had evidence of charcoal smoke in them, so in essence he did smoke and he smelted cooper. His hair has arsenic in it. He had tooth decay and one of his hips was ready for a replacement if he lived today. Other joints and his back were arthritic. His body was under stress. Was it the smokey fires, the arsenic, the grains? All that and the gene for heart problems, and yet he lived to be 46, an old man in his time.
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Thanks, very interesting article, and your observations are right on the mark. We all have the genetic predisposition for CVD. Anyone who was alive more recently than 10,000 years ago might also show progression toward this disease due to eating habits developed in an agrarian society. Is this really surprising??? As Nancy and Arlene have stated, there were many factors at the time that could impact health including an unhealthy diet and harsh living conditions. The hope is that modern people will learn from this and understand that cleaning up modern nutrition practices is equally important as cleaning up the environmental toxins and conditions that threaten health.
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Got me curious about his diet so I did a bit of looking around. Apparently his last meal was an einkorn wheat crackerish thing, a plant, and some meat. At least he had a balanced plate--the AHA should be proud.

More about his diet and possible effects of it:
http://thinkingmachineblog.net/otzi-and-the-paleo-diet/

What bugs me is that so often genes are referred to as simply ones that predispose to some kind of disease state. Animals rarely carry genes that ONLY bring disease (it would have to be a recent mutation)--there is something about that gene that makes survival more likely, something very positive, if so many people carry it. How about a gene that works great if your diet is mostly wooly mammoth, like during the ice ages, but not so great if your diet is mostly einkorn wheat? Brings on a little artery-hardening then. Why so much focus on "bad genes" and not so much focus on what they actually do that works?

On the lighter side--imagine being one of those 19 people related to Otzi, can you hear the phone call--"we've located one of your relatives...."?
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On the lighter side--imagine being one of those 19 people related to Otzi, can you hear the phone call--"we've located one of your relatives...."?
More likely an email from 23andme
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