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Old Tue, Jan-25-11, 18:16
simonic simonic is offline
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I used to train on TMs until I took to the streets, and became tired rather quickly. There are quite a few differences when running in the open versus indoors on a machine.

I believe a lot of it has to do with environmental factors (cold/warm air, pollen, air quality/pollution, etc), and on trails you're probably using stabilizing muscles that aren't used on the TM. All of which can lead to a quick decline of energy. Also, on trails you have to be a lot more mindful of your footfalls, the ground in front of you, and coming up.

Some people suggest running on TMs with a slight incline to mimic the "outdoor" running conditions. I think if running trails is an issue, just start from scratch as you normally would any running program. Your body has the endurance to push forward for 4 miles, and if it's becoming too winded/tired within a few minutes I'd point towards lack of stabilizing muscle support.

...or you have allergies, and it's bad outside that day.
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Old Tue, Jan-25-11, 18:49
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Trail running will use your smaller, stabilizer muscles which can be harder for some folks (or at least require some adjustment). But as JScwab said, it sounds like you're facing a mental barrier. Go slow, really slow if you need to, and that will help dispell the myth that you can't run far on a trail.

Good luck and keep running!
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Old Fri, Sep-30-11, 15:20
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You are likely running faster on the trail because you don't have the treadmill to pace you.
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Old Fri, Sep-30-11, 19:15
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Hi there!
The difference between the trail and the treadmilll is simple but not always obvious! The treadmill keeps you at the same level - or a preset level - all the time. If you have done a lot of treadie and then hit the trail, you will feel tired quite quickly because even though the trail might look flat, it won't be - even on asphalt or concrete which is set according to the earth terrain and camber. Two ways you can overcome this is to alternate your treadie training with your trail (ie a day on the treadmill the next day on the trail) and a REALLY good way of transitioning to the trail is stretching. When you're on the treadmill your muscles, ligaments and hamstrings become set and are not stretching to cope with change.
If you are able to regularly and evenly alternate your treadie and trail that will alleviate your tiredness. If not - if you only trail at the weekends for example, then make sure you programme a good 15 minute stretch regime after your treadie training - particularly calf, hamstring and glute stretches.
Try it and see how you go! I have done a lot of cross country running but was limited to training on the treadmill during the week and until a very clued up trainer pointed this out to me I suffered the same thing. And it wasn't very good for my confidence in competition. Good luck and good training!
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