so i got blasted the other day for eating the "franken cake" got some ketone strips yesterday and i am still in high ketosis... yeah and ive lost 4 more lbs so the cake apparently didnt bother me. not that im going to eat it all the time but if i have the urge i will.. it wasnt all that great.. im also wondering about almond flour as far as i know its just ground almonds can i use it as a sub. in some baking instances?

Hey, ya know what? I ate half a bag of resees miniature p-butter cups for DINNER saturday night and *I* was still in ketosis Sunday morning. So there! I think an occasional binge is fine, and sometimes needed.

Now, the three beers (THREE) I had a couple of weeks ago? Knocked me right out of ketosis, wiped me out for 2 days and took FOUR days to get the 2 pounds of (water?) weight off I gained after them.

Dunno nuthin' 'bout no almond flour... can't help ya there.

Julia

i didnt mean it as an so there type of thing i was just making a statement cause i got slamed the other day and id be scared that if i ate those peanut butter cups and told i would be beheaded

I have done a little bit of baking with almond flour. I tastes pretty good, but the result is coarser, more like corn bread than cake. It makes good muffins, but you need to adjust the amount of other ingredients when you bake with it--use more eggs, etc.

Do a google search on almond flour or "grain-free baking" and see if you don't find some recipes. There are also some almond-flour recipes at a website for gluten-free diets called pecanbread.com

hntrsmom, i'm sorry if you think you got blasted about the cake. all i can say is that those of us who responded have been there, done that, and have sold bumperstickers, t-shirts, and black velvet paintings by the side of the road about it. we were speaking from experience and out of concern and the wish for you to succeed.

indulging in foods like tastykakes, regardless of their carb count, is completely and totally your choice. it's your body, it's your eating plan, you are allowed to do with it what you choose. all i'm going to ask is that you change your plan to either "my own" or "atkins with tweaks" instead of just "atkins". you're giving a mixed message when you talk about having cake and your plan is one that most definitely doesn't allow cake, regardless of the carb count on the label.

i'm glad to see that the cake didn't knock you out of ketosis. as far as the question about the almond flour, i've seen several recipes floating around the site that use it. check out the kitchen section, or look for anything by kevinpa... he's the master baker around here, and i'm sure he's got more uses for almond flour than nestle's has for chocolate chips .

I am really happy to hear you continue to lose weight.

However, you sound really confrontational in this post. After re-reading the thread, I don't see where you "got blasted". Just because the posts are not what you want to hear, doesn't make them personal attacks on you.

You need to remember that thousands of people will read this thread before it is archived. The folks here try their best to make sure every thread is full of accurate information, particularly when it comes to the Atkins plan. Why? I would hazard to guess because it is such a popular method yet people come to boards like this without having read the book's current edition and brains loaded full of misinformation thanks to the media. Personally, I commend them, because I know I would quickly tire of saying the same thing over and over and over in countless threads that are essentially the same. That's why I lurk more than anything.

But here's a solution to your quandary. If you want to use "low carb" cakes and almond flours and what have you, and just plan to stick to a low(er) carbohydrate count, then great! Countless people have done such "tweaking" to a low carbohydrate way of life. And many of them lose weight, too. That's the beauty of dropping the carbohydrate addiction.

But then please don't call what you are doing Atkins, because it isn't. All you'll do is upset yourself because other posters will be telling you what you're doing wrong if you actually want to be following the Atkins WOL. Also, it'll ultimately cause more confusion for those who read behind you.

im obviously new to this and havent memorsied the atkins book as the rest of you have so i dont see why it has to be this huge issue is what im saying.. ghoulia ate choc. peanut butter cups on a binge but shes doing atkins does that mean she has to change her plan too... so i made a mistake all people have i dont think i need to change what im doing or not doing for a diet plan

Oh I know! I was just trying to be funny... and, I think I WON with my pb cups.

Don't worry, I'll behead myself..... NEXT MONTH WHEN I DO IT AGAIN!!!!!

Julia

i wasnt trying to single you out i was just trying to make my point.. best of luck to you ....

ok i ate the damn cake and made a mistake and i dont particularly WANT the almond flour i was asking a freaking question about it whether it was ok or not considering that i can eat almonds on atkins ( thats ok with you guys right cause the book says it is) i was wondering if i could use almond flour caus im sure somewhere down the line im gonna want to eat something that isnt just a vegtable or meat

hntrsmom, both nelson and i answered you about the uses of almond flour. i don't personally use it, so i don't know if other things are added to the ground nuts. however, if you chose to make it yourself then yes, it would be included in the nut rung of OWL foods.

i'd also like the chance to talk to you privately. my email is available in my profile. click on my name, then click on "view public profile."

Wow... well, I'm sorry you feel like you got blasted. I don't see anything like that, but then again, it wasn't directed at me, so I don't know if I'd feel the same way if I had been in your place, KWIM?

I do agree, though, that you've got a very confrontational attitude, and I think it's a little uncalled for when people are just trying to help make sure you succeed. I, for one, am one of those people who tried the "frankefoods" and failed at Atkins miserably because of them. I'd rather see someone not go through that if I can, and I suspect that most everyone else feels the same way.

Good luck, however you plan on low carbing! I'm glad you continued to lose weight and that you didn't stall after all.

I'm sorry that you felt blasted and beheaded over at your other post. Yeah, like kvon said--it's the voice of experience, that's all. We've been there and done that--once, twice, three, multiple times. But like everything else, everybody has to find their own way.

My contention is...if it wasn't that great, why eat it. I've been low carbing for a loooonnnnng time--started June 16, 2001. I'm not perfect, I have slips, I eat carbs sometimes, I have blow outs just like everybody else--no superiority here!! But....if I'm eating carbs, I wouldn't be wasting it on a nasty processed tastykake!! If I'm choosing to eat carbs, sweet or savory--it would be a homemade carrot or red velvet cake, sushi with perfectly seasoned sushi rice, artesian bread, stone fired pizza dough....you get the idea. You need to pick and choose to make this work for you. Lucky for you the tastykake didn't set off cravings, bloating, headache, and knock you out of ketosis.

On the subject of almond flour. Yes it can be added when you are at the nut rung. And usually for best baking results, it should be mixed with a "flourish" mix of other ingredients (there is a pelethora of threads on the subject). I eat a bowl muffin made with almond flour, WPI, and flax meal at least 4-5 times a week. These do not set off cravings. But, when I was using more of the "flourish" ingredients to make biscotti, cookies, carrot cake, brownies, etc, it set off cravings as if I was eating table sugar. I limit these itmes to once every few months. I've even gotten to the point that I no longer eat LC tortillas.

Bottom line, each to his own devices. If it works for ya, I say go with GOD. But if down the line you're not losing and have cravings than you need to rethink the items.

Good luck to you!!

Lisa

Caution: often the weight ripple or bubble from an off plan meal or two takes more than a day to appear.

No one is blasting you-just giving you facts. Look at all your posts-you are obviously struggling and we are trying to help. First you wanted peanut butter in one post, and then you bought low carb bread during Induction on another post, then you bought TastyCakes and ate them. Someone was even kind enough to point out that maybe you should try a different plan than Atkins if that would be easier for you. You seem to be always searching for a way to "get around" the basic tenets of Atkins. No one is blasting you-you are making your own choices. Also someone else eating off plan is not justification for you to do so. We all feel your pain with your struggles-we have all been there-you just need to pull yourself together and get determined to do what you have to do-no excuses, and if we can help you that's great.