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Old Mon, Jul-18-05, 07:41
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In my ongoing saga of thinning out our possessions so they don't possess us, I decided to go for the cookbook collection. What a collection! So many eclectic books from Simply Potatoes to Woman's Glory, the Kitchen (I know, I can see the feminazis cringing as I typed the last one in). I've collected cookbooks since at least 1971 when I became a bride, and added to the ones my Mother and Grandmother gave me. Why is it such a wrenching thing to let go of those pages filled w/comfort foods that I grew up on and served my new husband? Those are the recipes I also grew fat and unhealthy on and I don't want to pass them on to my son's wife just so she can continue the generational heart disease, etc...that attached itself to our "well fed" Slovenian family. And yet there is a touch of angst as though letting go of these pages is letting go of part of me and my childhood and family memories. I am giving these away. I considered giving them to my next door neighbor who is a foodie and loves to collect cookbooks, but you know what? Why contribute to the ill health of her family who suffer w/diabetes and heart disease? One more step to freedom....I looked at my bookcase and decided that it needed to go on a diet too...what is virtuous about having stacks and stacks of books? Its a pride thing....look how intellectual and well read I am! I have all these frigging (excuse me) books collecting dust on the shelves! God has spoken to me since last night about my sin of gluttony. This is the FIRST time in my life that I've recognized that I have this problem. Not just food but books, dishes, things in my home that someone else can use. Maybe I don't have as much as some people do but its still more than I need to have when someone else can be using it. I am purging the castle once again! As Oprah once put it, she remembers one day looking at her house and realizing she had a "fat house"....Now I understand what she meant! How about you? Love, Terry
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Old Mon, Jul-18-05, 08:28
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It is so hard not to collect, collect, and collect more in our culture. But congrats on the purge, Terry. I hope your home feels more spacious and that you feel relief at getting rid of the unnecessaries. Plus, others should benefit from the giveaways.

I understand about the book thing. I'm so impressed with myself for this year I've purchased only a dozen books (trust me, this is a record). I only bought Little House on the Prairie books because my old ones were falling apart, a gardening reference book, and the new Harry Potter this weekend because I needed something to do while my family went to a movie that I had no interest in seeing. Instead I've borrowed books from the library or from family and friends. I have this theory that I should only buy books I know I will use for reference or that I will read multiple times.
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Old Mon, Jul-18-05, 10:03
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I come from a long line of "fat house" people. I think that one reason people like us hold on to things and collect things is so we have some measure of control in our lives. Our culture also contributes to this by marking one's value based on possessions.

Speaking strictly for myself and my family since I know them, we have, for the most part, been unable to control certain facets of our lives and so we cleave to those things we can control. The amount of items we place in our homes being one example. Even over eating is a form of control.

It starts out simple enough. A few purchases here and there of an item we like and before long there is an over abundance. Sometimes it is things we purchase our selves other times it is things given to us. My grandmother is especially bad at this as well as my aunt who has lived with her her entire life (she is now 58 years old). You cannot move in their house. There are literally trails between boxes and furniture that you have to follow to get from room to room. There is one room in their house that is supposed to be my aunts bedroom but it is so full of boxes and unused furniture that she is forced to sleep in the living room in a reclining chair. The show clean sweep would need a whole week to get through the mountain of stuff in just 2 of their rooms.

I attribute a lot of this hording to the fact that my grandmother is a child of the depression and also had to, later in life, endure losing the family farm, then losing the family restaurant, and eventually losing the family cattle business. So everything was kept to be "recycled" and "reused" in an effort to conserve and save money. She has held on to every little trinket as if it were the last link to what once was. They are her touchstones to remember her family history by. She can tell you exactly what was given, and by whom, on what day and why, for every item in her house. But she can't remember which of the 8 grandchildren I am sometimes The family has grown up and moved on and times have gotten better. It is only my aunt and my grandmother left in that house. Is there really a need to keep 40 empty butter tubs for just the 2 of them? Obviously no, but the habit is there and they can't be broken of it. They don't want to be broken of it. Believe me we have tried. When they had to move 5 years ago I went there to help them pack. I took advantage of the situation and while my aunt was at work, and my grandmother asleep, I got busy throwing out all the butter tubs, magazines from 1972 etc. Nothing that I knew possessed a great deal of sentimental or historical value. I was very respectful and mindful of that.

Since then, and as a result of seeing them live this way, we have implemented a 6 month rule at my house. If it hasn't been touched in the last 6 months and wont be used in the next 6 months, out it goes. We do this cleaning at least twice a year, sometimes more. I still have a hard time giving up things like books (I, like my grandmother, am the family historian and have a huge resource library). Not so much because it is a prideful thing of wanting people to see how well read I am, but simply because I read those books over and over again. They bring back memories every time I look at them. They are life stage markers. Especially in this day and age when computers are so prevalent. There is something romantic and nostalgic to the written word. It is, in my opinion, mans greatest achievement. There is nothing better, to me, than to sit down and open a new book for the first time. The size and shape of the book, its weight, the type of paper it is printed on, how it is bound, it's particular smell and the crack and crinkle noise of turning that first page with all the excitement of the journey about to be taken just waiting for you. I guess deep down I am just a nerd
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Old Mon, Jul-18-05, 15:14
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I must admit I have a weakness for tiny teapots (which may be excused by the necessity of a seperate pot for each type of tea) and for motorcycles (I'm up to 4, and there is no excuse for it) but we've managed to slash the book collection at least 50% by replacing them with e-books.

Wyv
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Old Mon, Jul-18-05, 19:30
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Hey Rain....just my kind of Nerd....We have so much in common in our family tendencies....and in our own romanticizing and artistic sensibilities....I could feel the book as you described the experience....ah its a good thing we don't live close to each other or we'd be up to our earlobes in those wonderful beckoning books and no doubt find a weeping willow next to a lazy stream to plop our quilt down on and read, or watch the clouds go by, naming them all.

And wyv...I've got the teapot bug too...they're just so lonely if they have only one or two to visit with. In fact today TODAY even though I did my castle purge, I brought in (yes I did) a lovely deep blue tea pot w/white and blue falling leaves on it straight from the thrift store...it needed someone to love it....it was so unique...it was so blue....just right for my celestial seasonings blueberry tea...What can I say? No that wasn't a hot flash...I'm blushing. There's something about sitting in a rocking chair w/a nice cup of tea (iced in this heatwave thank you) reading a good book, (my favorite is the bible...THE good book...LOL, with your dog as a footstool.... Flower T

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Old Mon, Jul-18-05, 22:39
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My partner and I have it Chinese style with Yixing pot, thimble size clay cups, the works Sometimes just us, sometimes with friends. A pot that holds less than a cup of liquid can easily serve 4-5 people. Problem is the tea snacks... one wasabi pea and I am lost so we tend to save those for when we have company for tea.

Herbal tea is great in the eve, in a big mug... if you like Celestial Seasonings have you tried the honey-vanilla-chamomile?

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Old Tue, Jul-19-05, 06:20
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Hey Rain....just my kind of Nerd....We have so much in common in our family tendencies....and in our own romanticizing and artistic sensibilities....I could feel the book as you described the experience....ah its a good thing we don't live close to each other or we'd be up to our earlobes in those wonderful beckoning books and no doubt find a weeping willow next to a lazy stream to plop our quilt down on and read, or watch the clouds go by, naming them all.

And wyv...I've got the teapot bug too...they're just so lonely if they have only one or two to visit with. In fact today TODAY even though I did my castle purge, I brought in (yes I did) a lovely deep blue tea pot w/white and blue falling leaves on it straight from the thrift store...it needed someone to love it....it was so unique...it was so blue....just right for my celestial seasonings blueberry tea...What can I say? No that wasn't a hot flash...I'm blushing. There's something about sitting in a rocking chair w/a nice cup of tea (iced in this heatwave thank you) reading a good book, (my favorite is the bible...THE good book...LOL, with your dog as a footstool.... Flower T



Maybe what is needed here is a group of us with books and tea pots in hand, have a lovely spring outing together . I have a willow tree in my back yard but it is just a baby and the creek is too far away.

After reading both you and wyvrn, I am beginning to hear the siren call of these teapots your describing!! oh save me now!! I must go make room on a shelf for this soon to be collection
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Old Tue, Jul-19-05, 17:54
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Yes Wyv the honey vanilla cham is so nice! I really like decaf green tea lately with ice. I think we've gone and done it...drawn dear Rain into teapot desire. OH NO Rain shield your eyes, run the other way, take that shelf down...... here come the tea pots!!! (Better yet, send them to us!!!! We'll protect you!!!)

Maybe its an Alice in Wonderland thing....didn't she spin around inside a teacup at some point and the white rabbit followed her around offering her tea or am I dreaming that up? Or the Queen that yelled off w/her head was having tea in the garden??? I'm lost here!

Anyway Wyv....with liking wasabi and tea I'm wondering if you are of Asian descent? T
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Old Wed, Jul-20-05, 16:56
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Cruel, cruel people! This thread reminded me I wanted to get around to making or at least glazing a teapot for my oolong tea... I have enough projects already! Stop it!

As for the books with sentimental value... I suggest this. Throwing the books away would be a painful thought, so give the books away. They aren't rabid dogs you need to protect people from. Don't worry overmuch about inflicting harm on whoever ends up with them. They make their own nutritional choices and probably made them long before you showed up.

But, keep the sentimental memory of the family aspect of the dinners cooked and eaten together. It's not about the food. It's the people, the togetherness, the participation and learning. You'll never lose that no matter what you happen to eat now!
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Hi,
I can relate to everything here. My books and my teacups and pots, I can't give them up! Oh well someday.......

Annie
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Old Mon, Aug-01-05, 19:55
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Flower, yes, my grandfather was Chinese. Also a Chinese of my generation married into the family and they only live a couple of hours from me, so I get lots of great exposure to Chinese and other Asian culture. And you?

Wyv
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Old Mon, Aug-01-05, 23:21
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I was part of an international christian fellowship for a couple of years made up of mostly Asians coming to the states. My Pastor and wife were from Singapore and I was very close to them. Sadly the church dissolved after some years and is no more. My daughter in law is Korean and met my son while he was pursuing his doctorate in Korea. They are living with us until they get on their feet financially. She is sweet and gentle and I love her dearly. We are expecting a new baby so I'll be a 1st time Grandma to a brand new Korean American! Terry
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