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Old Sat, Jun-18-05, 00:20
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Lightbulb For all who where used to skip breakfast and/or lunch:

There may be a very natural explanation: Your body feels better that way!

This info is from www.warriordiet.com (Ori Hofmekler) and relates to research on mice and rats, which was so promising that a third study has been done where humans were given a 4-hour period of the day where they could eat. These results are to be published soon, and have the same health benefits as seen earlier on animals.
Two effects where studied, the health effects from calorie restriction and intermittent fasting, both of which proved (independent) to be beneficial.

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BREAKING NEWS - Feeding Cycles of Undereating and
Overeating May Increase Lifespan and Protect From Disease

Recent studies suggest that the health benefits of periodic undereating followed by overeating may range from longer life span to less stress and increased insulin sensitivity. The story has been covered extensively in the news:
Research Report References:

R. Michael Anson *, Zhihong Guo *, Rafael de Cabo, Titilola Iyun, Michelle Rios, Adrienne Hagepanos, Donald K. Ingram, Mark A. Lane , and Mark P. Mattson, "Intermittent fasting dissociates beneficial effects of dietary restriction on glucose metabolism and neuronal resistance to injury from calorie intake", Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences Online Early Edition the week of April 30, 2003 (http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/abstract/1035720100v1)

*W. Duan, Z. Guo, H. Jaing, M. Ware, X-J. Li, and M. P. Mattson, "Dietary Restriction Normalizes Glucose Metabolism and Brain-Derived Neurotrophic Factor Levels, Slows Disease Progression and Increases Survival in Huntington Mutant Mice" Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences Online Early Edition the week of February 10 (http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/abstract/100/5/2911).

Click Here for National Institute of Health News Release
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Old Sat, Jun-18-05, 00:41
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Talking Eating at night myth 'exploded'

I combine moderate LC with eating a main meal in the evening and a second meal between 22:00 and 24:00. Sometimes, like on a party I eat all night long. The only research I know of is supporting that this is not bad for you, and even a natural way of eating...

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Scientists at Oregon Health & Science University in the United States carried out tests on 47 female monkeys.


They found no link between when the animals ate and whether or not they put on weight. Speaking at a Society for Neuroscience meeting in New Orleans, the scientists said claims that eating late lead to weight gain may be "an urban myth".

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3263249.stm


(I heard that for the movie Alexander the actors were fed mainly during the evening to simulate the living conditions of the ancient warriors)
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This is an interview with Mattson, check his opinion on breakfast and light lunch!

http://www.sciencenews.org/articles/20030607/food.asp
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I find it hard to believe that rats fed every other day would still consume the same total calories. I am usually extra-hungry after a day of fasting, but I don't find myself eating double the amount the next day. Partly because I eat a pretty large meal anyway, so doubling that is just about physically impossible. And even if it were, I would figure that the absorption and utilization of the foodstuff would be lower.

I do find it interesting that people are challenging the conventional wisdom of "three squares a day and space it out evenly." After seeing the low carb light, I'll never look at conventional wisdom the same again.

One thing I do know, when I eat a late meal I'm not hungry the next day. It feels like I don't digest/process the food nearly as quickly when I am asleep. I don't know if that has implications for absorption, I suppose it is probably not the best as far as indigestion goes though.
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Your stomach capacity would shrink and you physically can't eat as much. I'm doing a protein sparing, modified fast ATM and I get a free meal each week. I tried to eat a normal largish meal and I ended up getting sick because I overloaded my stomach capacity.
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I find it hard to believe that rats fed every other day would still consume the same total calories. I am usually extra-hungry after a day of fasting, but I don't find myself eating double the amount the next day. Partly because I eat a pretty large meal anyway, so doubling that is just about physically impossible. And even if it were, I would figure that the absorption and utilization of the foodstuff would be lower.

I do find it interesting that people are challenging the conventional wisdom of "three squares a day and space it out evenly." After seeing the low carb light, I'll never look at conventional wisdom the same again.

One thing I do know, when I eat a late meal I'm not hungry the next day. It feels like I don't digest/process the food nearly as quickly when I am asleep. I don't know if that has implications for absorption, I suppose it is probably not the best as far as indigestion goes though.


Sometimes I am even 'still full' the next morning , I don't think that is bad, nothing in the mentioned studies points to that, in contrary, the method is beneficiary.

I thought the rats didn't eat the same amount in total, when fed they ate the same day-portion as normal. The mice where eating double on the feeding days. This is something that was known already beforehand.
In the human study the people eate not like that, the fasting period was reduced to a 20 hour period each day. So don't worry about the rats and the mice
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Your stomach capacity would shrink and you physically can't eat as much. I'm doing a protein sparing, modified fast ATM and I get a free meal each week. I tried to eat a normal largish meal and I ended up getting sick because I overloaded my stomach capacity.


Yes, I hear the stomach capacity mentioned by others, and I have experienced times that I feel I am satisfied with lesser amounts. Other times I still can eat a lot.
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