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Old Thu, Jul-01-04, 11:28
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Originally Posted by mrschmelz
Never do cardio before weight lifting, it is counter productive.

If you are truely looking for an ECA stack I would recomend making your own. You can still buy Ephedrine HCL legally in the US. It can not be marketed for weight loss, but still gives the same desired effect.


Yes yes yes! Cardio before lifting minimizes both fat loss AND muscle gain, while wearing you out and making you feel crappy. A whole lot of "why bother" in my book.

Actually, I think the homemade stack is better - you get EXACTLY what you want that way. (Ratio is 10 parts C to one part E, of course). Cheaper too.
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