Hi I know this an older post and maybe you have it figured out, but I also count everything minus fiber and sugar alcohols. I have been stalled for a couple of months now, don't know whats going on, but I figure the rest will come off or it won't. I've been doing everything by the book, and will continue to do so, but I guess we'll see how my body reacts. Good luck and I wish you every success. Judy