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Old Sat, Feb-25-06, 07:10
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Hello I just wanted to ask you a few questions...there seems to be a few contradictions in your argument here.
Firstly you say:

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Originally Posted by theBear

I must warn all of you that it is very unlikely that very many will be able to eat as I do over the long term, or in fact, to follow any diet for long which is much different from the one you were trained to as a baby/child. This is because diet is learned much the same way language, dress and behaviour is, and is buried deep and inaccessible, a part of your acculturation/socialisation. The very thing which makes us human is that deep and almost instinctive complex of behaviour.


Which insinuates that it is pre-programmed into us to eat a mix of vegetation, protein and fat, and other food items. Thus, if we tried to detach ourselves from that, we would not be able to, or at the very least find it considerably hard.

Then you go on to say:

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It requires a powerful will and a determination to change, in order to succeed in adopting the 'extreme' diet which this website is based on.


What web site? This one you just posted to? Only I think that you're kind of contradicting yourself there, you say it takes far too much willpower for people to change to an 'extreme' diet....when you are talking yourself of eating only meat....no vegetation at all....so in my book, your version of a diet is MUCH more 'extreme' than what people here on the boards are trying to do.

The you go on further to say:

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No paleolithic archeological dig has ever produced any food residues from vegetables. Chemical analysis of bones from the digs indicates they are the same composition as the African lion- thus, virtually no intake of vegetation. There were no 'hunter-gatherer' societies until the neolithic, even though some modern HG tribes still made and used typical paleolithic napped-stone tools. The so called Nearthin and Paleodiet thus are both nonsense, true paleolithic people were total carnivores and ate no veggies whatsoever.


A-haaa, so it should be relatively EASY to follow your plan then....because if we came from civilizations which already did not eat vegetation (which I find almost impossible to believe but nevermind...I'll keep with your argument...) then surely you are preaching to the already converted....we just don't know it yet?

I have one further question. Where exactly do you get your vitamines and minerals from if you don't eat any vegetation?

I totally respect your view of your own plan in general, but I would be hypocritical if I sat here and told you I believed every single thing you said.

What about the argument that yes, indeed we might very well have evolved from people who didn't touch a leafy thing their whole lives....but we also live at least two thirds longer than 'they' did then and who was to say 'they' got it right back then? Who's to say that the way we have been eating for the past (however long) isn't better for us than what they were doing back then....just because it happened in the past doesn't make it better!! I often hear people say in an argument about diet in general that they think the stone age, or cave man diet was much better for people than it is now.....but cave dwellers lived on average 20 years, you were concidered positively OLD if you hit 25!!!! We live till we are in our 80's or 90's now.....do you not think that could be because we eat better more neutricious things than they did??!

I agree that this is possibly the best plan you could be on.....but for YOU. Not nesasarily me, or everyone else on this board.
You make a very convincing argument, and I respect your post, but I also feel that such radical change of anyones diet could cause problems...especially when our bodies have been 'programmed' in the way you describe, into eating vegetation for all these years.
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