hi dawn , thanks, it does sound like you know where i am coming from,i am still struggling and yet putting lowcarbing on hold again,i am going to the shore for 4 days with my daughter, niece and mother in law who likes to drink, and there is gonna be a bar and food court right at the pool at the hotel, we are going to the shore. i like my weekend cocktails too. until i get back i am just counting ww pts, and then see if i can commit to lowcarbing,i just dont know why i cant stick to one. i was thinking of looking into sugarbusters, which i havent read yet. i wish you success on atkins. i am leaving for the shore this friday.