Originally Posted by LilaCotton

Now see, I completely agree with this--there's more science against that type of evolution than for it (and I'm not a brainiac, just different things interest me).

However, there is much to ask about the various groups of people and how they've adapted over time to the diets they eat. I can think of example upon example where world-wide different groups of people are healthy and none of these groups eats identical type food. The one thing they do have in common is that they remain healthy as long as they eat the type of diet to which they're accustomed. And as I said earlier much of it has to do with 'survival of the fittist' where people with problems often time died out before they could reproduce.


If they aren't yet, they will be. When I was a child I had every childhood disease there was and came through them fine, and why? Because my parents passed down natural immunities to me. In the early days of white folks in Hawaii, almost the entire island population was wiped out by a case of measles. Again, why? Because none of these people had any natural immunity to the disease. Say we go several generations down the road and childhood illnesses are wiped out to the point no one any longer needs vaccinations and for whatever weird reason measles sprung up again, how many people would die from it?

On the one hand, no one wants to lose a loved one to a disease or birth defect. But on the other hand, each person who survives that disease or has surgery to correct a birth defect and passes on the genes makes the human race weaker. It's hard to win in any case.

Originally Posted by jorelq

I came across these defintions of which it would be true that a Christian has no problems with the first two.

"selective evolution": This refers to genetic variation that gets selected through successive generations. In short, this is just genetics, and this what natural selection has to do with. Importantly, this kind of evolution involves no mutation. This includes the examples you bring up such as dog breeding and covers the selective breeding of everything from farm animals to plants. This is the type of evolution you're referring to when you talk about "survival of the fittest".
"mutative evolution": This type of evolution involves mutation of existing genetic information. This covers things like color-blindness, bacterial resistance to drugs, sickle-cell anemia, etc.
"creative evolution": This is the kind of evolution that claims to create new features or structures of an organism that didn't exist before, and requires an increase in genetic information. This covers the "goo to you", or "monkey to man" evolution, and includes such things as the evolution of multicellular organisms from single-celled, prokaryote cells from eukaryote, the origin of the cell, and the very creation of life from non-living matter.

Its the 3rd one where the real debates begin. And, as a believer, I do not buy into. Cats have always been cats, fish - fish, dogs - dogs and man - man. I have yet to run across a monkey man although many of my friends are quite hairy.

Jorel