Dane,
It has progressed..way beyond the days of John Parillo and Robert "eat as man carbs as you can" Haas.

I have had the great fortune to be around some of the top trainers in the world over the years. Some I'm sure you are very familiar with..some of them have trained me as well.

Though most of them do not adhere to zero carbs, just about all of them recommend a lower carb approach.

All of them insist on post workout shakes. Whey isolate is king but if their clients bodyfat is higher then 12% they recommend glutamine instead of dextrose or maltodextrin for post workout carbs.

Preworkout was a formula of branch chain amino acids or a drink such as Glutacene ..but never,ever carbs..not even the starchy variety that you recommend.

Though we should all know this..carbs do spare protein..but they also spare FAT..

So the question is..has your knowledge progressed mr friend?