Mon, Oct-21-19, 11:51
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Plan: Very LC, Higher Protein
Stats: 227/186/185
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Progress: 98%
Location: Herndon, VA
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Originally Posted by teaser
Well, there were coconuts... also much larger, fattier animals. And we would seek out fattier nuts and seeds. A lot is made of how lean wild animals are--even ten percent fat to lean gets you to a 50 percent fat diet (lean hydrated tissue, about 1 calorie a gram, fat, 9 calories a gram). Also animal fat stores well, even with old technologies. Remember oolichan grease, we were talking about that a lot when Jay Wortman came on the scene, yearly harvests of those little oily fishies gave people a source of monounsaturated fat that lasted them much of the year.
When food was seasonal--likely it made sense to fatten up alongside the animals on plant foods when gathering was more fruitful *cough* and then eat the animals once it wasn't. Deer might be possible to eat year-round, but a person with foresight might prefer to harvest when the animals are fat. Having some fatty pemmican stored up from the previous late summer/early fall is a better strategy than harvesting emaciated deer in the late spring.
The real problem for a lot of people was likely where to find fungus free organic fair trade coffee when they didn't even know coffee existed yet.
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Yeah, fungus free must have been very difficult to find in those times . . . . 
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Originally Posted by teaser
I might be biased by my personal experience, going to fatty fat fat intake, I'm much leaner, have been for several years, than when I was on a more protein-centric low carb diet. Carbs have gotten stricter as well, but at the very least, there's some context under which much increased fat is not making me fatter.
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I have no doubt that your ratio of fat to protein works extremely well. You've found a ratio that works for you. I've increased protein consumption as I get older, and, as mentioned in other threads, blood ketones do not go down. It's nice to hear Bikman's research confirms that as well, and that I don't risk muscle wasting when I do IF. I also understand why the carnivore approach is so successful for some. There was a time when I thought bulletproof coffee was the answer. That was a short time, and my response to no dairy (eliminate HWC in my coffee, that was tough  ) and increased protein has been very positive in maintenance.
Also, when we talk about oolichan grease and pemmican, the climate had a large influence on how much of an energy source was required to get through cold periods. Given that fat is easy to store and has a huge contribution of calories, it seems to have been the ideal source for many peoples. Closer to the equator, not so much.
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