theBear, Frederick and Dean... We all feel great on this way of eating. Most of us have preferentially done this for several years with slight deviations when the PC nutritionists got to us, with the exception of you, theBear. So...I am sure we will continue on. I think this is a great discussion. I discard what I don't like and continue to enjoy the thread. Let's just keep it up. The only carbs I am taking in are the cream in my coffee, the coffee itself, and the eggs. I no longer care what anybody else thinks, and they pretty much don't ask me anymore. AMEN!