Excellent. In this forum you will discover a lot of opinions about the sticks. I was lc years ago and had epic success. This time around is going awesome as well. I USE THE STICKS. But ignore the color. As the color can vary based on too many variables. Ifor it turns even the slightest bit u r doing good. One side note po pneumonia that. If on the dark side then u likly need more h2o