Demi, thanks for maintaining this thread----I can see points that account for my kids doing pretty well. As teens they are usually in bed between 9 and 10, and up at 6 on school days. ANd their clocks are my OLD ones from decades ago......

As for sleeping out aka camping, THAT is when they are up til the weee hours with thier buddies, lol.

Rooster started crowing at 4;30 this morning under my window. He will be moved back to his distant pen tonight.