I am a zero carb eater. MY WAY!

in that if I opt 'one day' out of 30 in the month to eat a few radish cause 'I want to' is my business.

ZIOH is specific. they are meat and water. no 'extras' and while I say go fit into a group that is SO specific is good if you want to do that----I know when I read their FB page so many cheat it is stupid LOL

but there is great info on that board.

see 'thru the circus' of it all and gain the main info that is wonderful to ''''us who need VERY low carb'"" to make it in this journey.

we see the weird, the wild, the crazy, the 'koolaid'---take what you need and move on from the rest

do it 'your way' and if you don't fit into a group, it is ok, cause a group is not needed if you are secure in yourself and the results you receive.