Thank you Judi and Joanne42 for your interest.

How can I give up a Tim Horton 'everything bagel' and herbal cream cheese for a 'wafer'?

I am prepared to bake the bagels myself if I could duplicate the taste.... but if that is not possible I guess I will have to give them up altogether.

Is there such a thing as a 2/3 carbo bagel?

Joe
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P.S.- I think I have just gained a pound thinking about this subject.