Ozempic ads seem to be everywhere. Doctors and ethics experts are worried
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I'm a huge Jays fan - it's currently in my userpic - and these ads are obnoxious.
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They're desperate to make it a household name and make it sound like everyone is taking it. Cute that the Jays are also sponsored by Budweiser, Schneiders (meat company mostly known for sausages and hot dogs), Smuckers, A&W (burger chain) and Pizza Nova. |
What drives people off the drug are the mental effects, which I don't see in the article or any other official pronouncement. I've been seeing people sharing their experience, and there's a pattern.
At first, it's the gastro problems, and don't worry they have drugs for that if a person can't adjust. I have watched several people share how they hung in there for months with it, because "I don't think about food 24/7 when I'm on it." That effect seems to be how Ozempic works its magic. You don't have to think about food and you don't think about food and you eat to hunger like you have a working metabolism. I know! Of course it's better to actually have a working metabolism. Without upsetting the entire digestive tract. But it doesn't happen in weeks and eating real food won't make anyone enough money. It takes a few months for the mental problems to occur, whether the gastro settles or not. If there was an existing problem, it comes back with a vengeance. If there's wasn't one, it's possibly worse, because the person doesn't recognize or understand what is happening, at the same time they are losing weight and sleeping better. When the sleeping better starts to go they find it harder to fool their doctor. Most of the time, the doctor has to yank them off it. But people doing it without the supervision are still out there, and then it could get really bad. Because it's been months for many of these people, waiting to feel better, and all their problems resurging with a vengeance. Including their messed up metabolism which is now terribly confused because they gain all the weight back with a rebound effect of more. Because now their sense of satiety might be messed up? They don't pay any attention to a truly healthy diet -- and I can't even blame them for not knowing that that even IS -- so protein constantly stays far too low. They lose muscle, too, on Ozempic. So, with rebound gain, they are actually fatter and will struggle harder the next time. While all the while their body is screaming for nutrients, and still not getting it. Look at the stats on stuff like calcium and vitamin D. People have been scared away from dairy to the point that the Vitamin D supplementation in milk, passed as a public health measure, is no longer working on the population. Even their ice cream doesn't have much real dairy in it. They've had to change so many labels to "quiescently frozen confection" because it is essentially a popsicle now. Which means even a junk food diet, thirty years ago, was not as junky as the same thing, now. |
And here I had innocently thought that Canada did not have any type of drugs ads. Of course, the pharmaceutical industry figured out a way around it
Since I search for weight and Blood glucose type of information on the Internet, all the ads I see are about one of these weight loss medications. And evening news, everywhere! |
To expand on the nutritional wasteland offered in most food outlets, I did a bit of a survey.
I recently filled out a questionnaire for a local grocery chain. As a result of wanting to give them information on all departments, I went down all the aisles and looked at the ingredients. I haven't done this much since Atkins years ago had me drop most of the store. Every so often DH will treat himself with coffee and bakery at a little shop in town. This treat doesn't give him heartburn, which helps him turn down far lesser treats. I know the baker, and he uses fresh fruit, with real butter and sugar and eggs. That's why the list of ingredients in the bakery section were so long and horrifying. I had to go to the frozen case, with the specialty items, to find the kinds of ingredients at the kind of bakery which is so incredibly rare now. Yes, even homemade treats were full of carbs and sugar, but now, that's ALL it is. Instead of butter or lard, it's seed oils. Instead of sugar, the even worse HFCS. What once was eggs and milk becomes chemical substitutes. This thing only looked like the stuff of my Midwestern childhood. Even their fruit pies were more like marshmallows floating in Jell-O. I think you have to be as old as some of us to grasp how enormously our food landscape has changed. |
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And yet if they were doing a rat study that showed eating meat, real cheese, and butter showed any kind of negative effects in rats, the rat study would be worthy of glaring headlines about the deadly risk of those foods in the human diet. Makes me wonder if the real reason behind not seeing thyroid tumors in rats as a potential risk for humans too is that Ozempic (and the rest of the semaglutide drug class) gives patients an aversion (vomiting) to eating meat and fats, so any other potential side effects are outweighed by the reduction in meat and fat consumption. |
In an interview dr Ken Berry said Weight Watchers bought a company that will prescribe Ozempic. He points out WW is a money making company. Period
I want good health. Not drugs. |
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I hope what they're actually prescribing is Wegovy. It's the same thing as Ozempic, just a lower dosage prescribed for weight loss, so if the company that WW has prescribing Ozempic are not prescribing it for full blown diabetics, insurance will very likely not authorize it. (I know of someone that happened to - insurance rejected Ozempic, suggested Trulicity instead. Meanwhile, that person's spouse started on Wegovy last week... and after throwing up frequently the first night, has felt nauseous the rest of week.) Wegovy has the same side effects as Ozempic (diarrhea, vomiting, constipation, nausea...), and based on how sick a friend was after the first dose of Wegovy, I can't imagine how bad diabetics must feel on the higher dosage Ozempic. Honestly, from everything I've heard about the side effects, it sounds like the semaglutide drugs act like they're just a very expensive aversion therapy - you throw up/feel so nauseous that you can't eat much of anything without throwing up. Your stomach empties so slowly that you're not hungry anyway. According to the friend, some things don't even taste as good since starting the Wegovy. Not that the friend can eat much, just starchy carbs and some fruit. Nutritionally speaking, just horrible. |
If I wasnt already convinced, constant nausea is off putting!!
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The friend joined the FB Wegovy group, and they say it's easier after the first week.
What they mean by "easier" is anyone's guess - whether it's that you don't get as sick or don't feel nauseous as long... or maybe it's just that you get used to feeling nauseous all the time after the first week. The friend is eating a little more now than the first few days - still mostly carbs, but is hoping to branch out to some low fat dairy this week. |
I avoid social media, giant billboards and professional sports games and haven't seen any of these ads on Canadian TV channels. I usually record the few things I watch on US channels so I can FF through the ads, which are non-stop during old movies run after midnight.
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Good lord, it sounds like Antabuse, but at least for alcoholics, they're otherwise better off as long as they successfully avoid alcohol. There are lots of healthy people born without the ability to produce the enzyme that Antabuse blocks. It also reminds me of the Kimkins gang, who constantly chased the state of SNATT - slightly nauseous all the time. A bunch of them even printed up T shirts, IIRC. :rolleyes: |
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Kimkins! What a blast from the past. That scam made me notice how forums can be great or dangerous. Hat tip to our amazing mods! Without sense being applied, it's going to be an echo chamber. I understand how it can happen. The stakes are so high, health and stamina, relationships, opportunities. We will do anything. And before low carb, I was so confused. |
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They dream of that, don't they? Best video I've found to explain its action. Dr Sten https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHmRIEOWrHk The nausea probably because the body is being told "you just ate!" Constantly. |
The friend actually mentioned how it was quite reminiscent of how it felt to be SNATT-y on Kimkins.
Yes, the pressure is extreme to get down to a normal weight, no matter what it takes, especially for those who already have health issues. |
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