Dreamfields Pasta
Greetings everyone. Me and my girlfriend are new to South Beach and low carb diets in general. We made the switch to SB on Sunday. We were really huge carb freaks to the point where we gave away about 100+ dollars in food from the house when we purged in prep for the change in diet. After only two days we are finding it hard to plan meals but we are getting it slowly (we more than likely should have prepared a little better, but too late to go back now). We came across Dreamfields pasta and were surprised to see how low it claimed the carbs that counted were. Being in phase I I know we should stay away from all pastas, but I also know we don't count carbs like other plans. So I guess they question is how bad is this for a phase I person to eat? It would go a long way to help through phase I since it would at least feel like we are eating pasta even tho it is pretty healthy!
Thanks in advance for your advice! |
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Hi and welcome! The short answer to your question is NO....dreamfields is not allowed on phase I. :nono: Doing phase I correctly is key...knowing what is acceptable is the only way to do it properly. The only reason that they call Dreamfields low carb is that it is covered in a starch blocker( inulin). It is made just like any other pasta, wheat flour..and that is strictly not allowed on phase I. I was just like you when I started out 8 yrs ago, still trying to my pasta fix. Yes, I see it as a drug. I did do my 2 weeks of phase I until I got the 2 weeks right. It took me about 4 weeks to do that as I kept having fruit. Then when in phase II, I did use Dreamfields to get my fix once a month ( strict 2 oz portion) as I transitioned away from it totally. I still have a box that sits on my shelf for the past 3 yrs, unopened. :cool: So, sorry to tell you this but you need to know all the rules. The food lists and meal plan guides for phase I and II, are here for you to use and follow. They are located at the start of our weekly weighin thread. :) Good Luck! |
SBD Phase I food list and Meal Plan Chart
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SBD Phase I food list BEEF Lean* cuts, such as: Bottom Round Eye of Round Flank Steak Ground beef: Extra lean -- Added Lean Sirloin -- Added London Broil Pastrami, lean Sirloin Steak T-bone Tenderloin (filet mignon) (common name for tenderloin steaks) Top Loin Top Round * Lean meat has, per 100 gram portion, 10 grams or less of total fat and 4.5 grams or less of saturated fat. POULTRY (SKINLESS) Cornish hen Ground breast of chicken Ground breast of turkey Low-fat turkey sausage (3-6 grams of fat per 60 gram serving) Removed limit/recommendation: can be eaten as an occasional treat (approximately once/week) Turkey bacon Removed limit/recommendation: (2 slices per day) Turkey and chicken breast SEAFOOD All types of fish and shellfish Added: (limit those high in mecury and other contaminants such as swordfish, tilefish, shark and albacore/white tuna-use light tuna instead.) Water-packed tuna and other canned fish Salmon roe Sashimi PORK Boiled ham Canadian bacon Loin Added specifcs of chop or roast Tenderloin VEAL Chop Cutlet, leg Top round LAMB (Remove all visible fat) Center Cut Chop Loin GAME MEATS (Added new section) Buffalo Elk Ostrich Venison LUNCHMEAT Fat-free or low-fat only Boiled ham Deli sliced turkey breast Steamship roast beef Smoked ham MEAT SUBSTITUTES (SOY BASED) Unless otherwise stated, look for products that have 6 grams of fat or less per 2-3 ounce serving Soy Bacon - Added Soy Burger - Added Soy Chicken unbreaded - Added Soy hot dogs - Added Sausage Patties and Links Limit removed: Limit 1 patty or 2 links per day Seiten Soy Crumbles - 1/4 cup (2 oz) suggested serving Tempeh 1/4 cup suggested serving Tofu All varieties, 1/2 cup suggested serving Yuba (Bean Curd or Sheet) CHEESE (FAT-FREE OR LOW-FAT) Look for varieties that have 6 grams of fat or less/ounce American Cheddar Cottage cheese, 1-2% or fat-free Feta Mozzarella Parmesan Part-skim Ricotta Part-skim String Provolone Swiss EGGS The use of whole eggs is not limited unless otherwise directed by your doctor. Use egg whites and egg substitute as desired. MILK/DAIRY (2 cups allowed daily, including yogurt) Low-fat milk (fat-free and 1%) Fat-free 1/2 & 1/2 (less than 2 tablespoons) Low-fat plain, vanilla, or sucralose-containing soy milk (4 grams of fat or less per 8 ounce serving). Be sure the product does not contain high fructose corn syrup 1% or fat-free buttermilk Fat-free plain yogurt Greek Yogurt nonfat - Added BEANS/LEGUMES (Start with 1/3 - 1/2 cup serving) Adzuki Beans Black Beans Black-eyed peas Broad Beans Butter Beans Cannellini Beans Chickpeas or Garbanzo Edamame Great Northern Beans Italian Beans Kidney Beans Lentils Lima Beans Mung Beans Navy Beans Pigeon Peas Pinto Beans Refried beans fat free canned - Added Soy Beans (also known as edamame) Split Peas White Beans VEGETABLES (May use fresh, frozen or canned without added sugar) Artichokes Artichoke hearts - Added Arugula Asparagus Broccoli Broccoli rabe - Added Broccoli sprouts - Added Bok Choy Brussels Sprouts Cabbage Capers Cauliflower Celery Chayote Chicory - Collard Greens Cucumbers Daikon radish - Added Eggplant Endive Escarole - Added Fennel Fiddlehead ferns - Added Garlic Grape leaves - Added Green Beans Hearts of palm Jicama Kale Kohlrabi - Added Leeks Lettuce (All varieties) Mushrooms (All varieties) Mustard Greens Nopales - Deleted Okra Onions Parsley Pepperoncini - Added Peppers (All varieties) Pickles - Dill or artificially sweetened Pimientos - Added Radicchio Radishes (All varieties) Rhubarb Sauerkraut Scallions Sea Vegetables (seaweed, nori) Shallots - Added Snap Peas Snow peas Spinach Sprouts Squash, Spaghetti Squash, Summer # Yellow # Zucchini Swiss Chard Tomato Tomato Juice Turnip Greens Vegetable Juice Cocktail Water Chestnuts Watercress Wax Beans Zucchini NUTS AND SEEDS (Limit to one serving per day as specified. Dry roasted recommended.) Almonds - 15 Brazil Nuts - 4 Cashews - 15 Edamame, dry roasted - 1/4 cup - Added Filberts -25 - Added Flax Seed - 3 TBS (1 oz) Hazelnuts -25 - Added Macadamia - 8 Peanut Butter, Natural, and other nut butters - 2 TBS Peanuts, 20 small (May use dry roasted or boiled) Pecans - 15 Pine Nuts (Pignolia) - 1 ounce Pistachios - 30 Pumpkin Seeds - 3 TBS (1 oz) Sesame Seeds - 3 TBS (1 oz) Soy Nuts - 1/4 cup Sunflower Seeds - 3 TBS (1 oz) Walnuts - 15 FATS/OILS The following monounsaturated oils are recommended to be consumed daily: Oil, canola Oil, olive Other Oil Choices that may be chosen (Polyunsaturated or a blend of Monounsaturated): Corn Flax Grapeseed Peanut Safflower Sesame Soybean Sunflower Other Fat Choices: Avocado - 1/3 whole = 1 TBS oil Guacamole - 1/2 cup = 1 TBS oil Margarine - Chose those that do not contain Trans Fatty Acids such as Fleishmann's Premium Olive Oil or Smart Balance Mayonnaise - Regular - 1 TBS Mayonnaise - Low Fat - 2 TBS (avoid varieties made with high fructose corn syrup) Olives (Green or Ripe) 15 = 1/2 TBS oil Salad Dressing - 2 TBS. Use those that contain 3 grams of sugar or less per 2 TBS. Best choices contain canola or olive oil. Low carb salad dressings may also be used if they meet these guidelines. SEASONINGS AND CONDIMENTS All spices that contain no added sugar Broth Coconut Milk -Light - Added Espresso powder Extracts (almond, vanilla, or others) Horseradish sauce Lemon Juice Lime Juice Pepper (black, cayenne, red, white) Salsa (check labels for added sugar) Use the following toppings and sauces sparingly (check labels for added sugar and MSG) Cream Cheese, fat-free or light - 2 TBS Hot Sauce Low carb condiments, as long as they meet South Beach guidelines (have no added fat and are sugar-free/contain no added sugar) Miso - 1/2 TBS Shoyu - 1/2 TBS Sour Cream, light and reduced-fat - 2 TBS Soy Sauce - 1/2 TBS Steak Sauce - 1/2 TBS Tamari Worcestershire Sauce - 1 TBS Whipped Topping, Light or Fat-Free - 2 TBS SWEET TREATS (Limit to 75 - 100 calories per day) Sweet treats are items that contain sugar alcohols, such as: Candies, hard, sugar-free Chocolate powder, no-added-sugar Cocoa powder, baking type Chocolate syrup sugar free - Added Fudgsicles, no sugar added Gelatin, sugar-free Gum, sugar-free James and jellies, sugar-free Popsicles, sugar-free Syrups, sugar-free Some Sugar Free Products may be made with sugar alcohols (isomalt, lactitol, mannitol, sorbitol or xylitol) and are permitted on the SBD. They may have associated side effects of GI distress (abdominal pain, diarrhea & gas) if consumed in excessive amounts. SUGAR SUBSTITUTES Acesulfame K Fructose (needs to be counted as Sweet Treats, Caloric Limit) Nutrasweet (Equal) Saccharin (Sweet & Low) Sucralose (Splenda) BEVERAGES Decaf Coffee and Tea Diet, decaffeinated, sugar-free sodas and drinks Herbal teas (peppermint, chamomile, etc.) Milk (1% or fat-free) and soymilk (low-fat plain). See MILK/DAIRY. Sugar-free powdered drink mixes Vegetable Juice Tomato Juice - Added Deleted: Note: caffeinated coffee or diet sodas with caffeine added are allowed, but limited to 1 - 2 servings per day Phase 1 Foods to Avoid BEEF Brisket Jerky, unless homemade without sugar Liver Prime rib Rib steak Skirt steak POULTRY Chicken, wings and legs Duck Goose Turkey, dark meat (including wings and thighs) PORK Bacon Honey-baked ham Pork rinds VEAL Breast DAIRY Ice cream Milk, 2% or whole Soymilk, whole Yogurt, cup-style and frozen CHEESE Full-fat FRUIT Avoid all fruits and fruit juices on Phase 1. VEGETABLES Beets Carrots Corn Green peas Potatoes, sweet Potatoes, white Pumpkin Squash, winter Turnips (root) Yams STARCHES AND CARBS Avoid all starchy food in Phase 1, including: Bread, all types Cereal, all types Croutons, all types Matzo Oatmeal Pasta, all types Pastries and baked goods, all types Rice, all types CONDIMENTS Cocktail sauce Ketchup BEVERAGES Alcohol of any kind, including beer and wine Fruit juice, all types Milk, full-fat and 2% Powdered drink mixes containing sugar Soda and other drinks containing sugar Soymilk with more than 4 g fat per 8 oz. serving ________________________________________________________________ SBD Meal Plan Chart How To Adapt Your Meal Plan- Phase I The South Beach Diet? is designed so that you can easily swap meals and ingredients. If you don't like eggs for breakfast, have low-fat cottage cheese or lean meat instead. Not a fish lover? Then choose lean beef or poultry. In Phase 1 of the diet, you can eat as many proteins and vegetables as you like, plus fats like olive oil. Fruit and starches aren't allowed until Phase 2. Here's a look at some general eating guidelines. For specific food choices, check out the Phase 1 Foods to Enjoy & Avoid list. BREAKFAST Protein: Quantity is not limited. Start with a 2 oz. portion, eat slowly, go back for seconds if still hungry. Vegetables: Minimum 1/2 cup or 6-8 oz. tomato or vegetable juice. Fruit: None Starch: None Milk/Dairy: 2 cups allowed daily (including yogurt) Fat: 1 tsp mayonnaise, trans-free margarine, or oil (optional) SNACK Snacks are required. Choose a protein, vegetable, fat-free plain yogurt, or nuts/seeds. A snack that combines protein (1 oz.) and vegetables is encouraged. LUNCH Protein: Quantity is not limited. Start with a 3 oz. portion, eat slowly, go back for seconds if still hungry. Vegetables: Minimum 2 cups. We encourage you to include a serving of beans (1/3-1/2 cup) as part of your vegetables. Fruit: None Starch: None Milk/Dairy: 2 cups allowed daily (including yogurt) Fat: 1 Tbsp mayonnaise, trans-free margarine or oil, or 2 Tbsp salad dressing SNACK Snacks are required. Choose a protein, vegetable, fat-free plain yogurt, or nuts/seeds. A snack that combines protein (1 oz.) and vegetables is encouraged. DINNER Protein: Quantity is not limited. Start with a 3 oz. portion, eat slowly, go back for seconds if still hungry. Vegetables:Minimum 2 cups. We encourage you to include a serving of beans (1/3-1/2 cup) as part of your vegetables. Fruit: None Starch: None Milk/Dairy: 2 cups allowed daily (including yogurt) Fat: 1 Tbsp mayonnaise, trans-free margarine or oil, or 2 Tbsp salad dressing DESSERT / EVENING SNACK Desserts are optional. Enjoy some of your Sweet Treat allowance, a dessert, or any of the snack choices. SWEET TREATS Sweet Treats are products that contain sugar alcohols. You can enjoy them throughout the day to satisfy your sweet tooth ? just limit yourself to roughly 75 calories worth per day to avoid any GI distress. See a list of Sweet Treat options here BEVERAGES Diet, decaffeinated, sugar-free drinks are not limited. You can enjoy caffeinated coffee or diet sodas with caffeine added, but limit to 1 - 2 servings per day. |
i couldn't agree more with judy. i lost most of my weight on south beach. you have to do a correct phase 1 (no grains, no fruit). Then slowly add back in the restricted foods (preferably anything made with flour add last). It's the only way you;ll break the cravings cycle and the only way you'll understand what foods you can and cannot tolerate well (ie., what foods are trigger and binge foods).
Do the plan as written. frankly, you'll likely lose better as well. the bigger the carb addict you are, the more important it is to do a proper phase 1. |
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:agree: Exactly! Thanks!! :thup: |
Oh I agree with doing phase I correctly, hence the reason I was asking if it was allowable or not. I have done much reading but this seemed like a good alternative so I just needed verification. So far we are on day 3 and haven't strayed off yet. I am doing my best to avoid the scale as I really want to step on it already lol
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Hi, OK, good that you asked first then. :) If you read the South Beach Diet book and look over the food lists that I put there for you, you'll see that your question raises my curiousity of what your understanding of carbs actually is. :q: This pasta is made from highly processed white wheat flour....bad stuff!:devil: We are taught to avoid it...period! There is no grain(wheat, oats, barley, millet, corn, rice) product allowed at all in phase I, not ever! :cool: |
I understand, it was more one of those "Oh, this only has 5 carbs really, can we get away with it?"
Another thing I am curious about that doesn't appear on many lists, what about those low carb no sugar protein shakes? I looked at some earlier that seemed like they would fit the bill and give us more protein without killing it on carbs. |
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There are many no sugar added protein powders that you can buy and make your own shakes. Many find that pre-made shakes aren't the best choice. |
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I agree it may not be the best option, but until I can come up with a way to make my own and it taste good, I will settle for some pre-bought stuff for a bit. |
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Have you looked for recipes here in the kitchen? I just saw a thread with someone looking for recipes for this. :) here it is: http://forum.lowcarber.org/showthread.php?t=445734 There is one there with 1 tbs of a nut butter mixed in with spinach also.....sounds goood to me and phase I legal. |
personally i don't find shakes, either homemade or premade, to hold my hunger the way a meal with protein and veggies does. just a caution if you start to struggle staying on plan with your food and you rely on very many shakes. long term success imo whether it's south beach or atkins or weight watchers (or anything) is moving toward eating "real" whole foods, not shakes or bars or processed or fast food. jmo.
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I completely understand and agree. The shakes were less "need to not be hungry" and more "Dear god I need chocolate!!!" type thing. Me and the girlfriend were real big carb junkies who love chocolate and sweets... it shows, we are both over 300lbs. So the first two weeks of this is going to be the hardest, would have been easier if we could have fruit cause we love fruit as well but its a no-no. So I am scouring for things that are low carb and allowable to sort of ease the pain of just stopping cold turkey on the carbs and sweets... I guess you could say like a smoker trying to quit, I am looking for a patch! lol |
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OK, I hear ya on this! :) I put the food lists and meal plan charts there for you for a reason. Did you notice that you are allowed a daily sweet treat as long as its no sugar added? *Sugar free ice pops are legal *no sugar added fudgsicles *sugar free jello you are allowed up to 125 cals a day in this category. :wave: |
my saviour was the no sugar added fudgsicles.
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