High fat, low carb Ketogenic diets work, but you’ll have to be disciplined
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Demi, You're going to be a very busy woman with all these Ketogenic articles being published all over the world :lol:
Many thanks for all your work gathering these stories. Cant complain on the basis of any media coverage is good coverage. This one started out well! But then devolved into the no fibre, no energy, and darn, it doesn't keep working if you return to eating a crap diet. What a surprise :rolleyes: |
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Negate issues--I would say, no. Suppose you ate an all-cracker diet and got scurvy. Your twin ate all crackers and some oranges. The oranges didn't negate something poisonous about crackers (at least in reversing the scurvy), it addressed a lack. You can't separate the effects from the conditions under which the effects occur. In the old genes or environment debate, the answer is no. Do genes or environment cause blah? No. It's always genes and environment. There are no "issues with consuming a high-fat diet in general," there are conditions under which fat might contribute to issues. Otherwise, you're defining the very historically abnormal modern diet pattern as sort of the universal baseline. Gotta be grassfed, gotta be organic, gotta be "good fats"--okay, but most of the studies showing benefits to a very low carb diet are basically Atkins without these stipulations. And--if I switched to a 70 grams per day life without bread type diet, I'd likely gain weight, it's what's happened to me in the past--but on a population basis, what randomized studies have shown disagrees that low carb diets lose all their power unless the diet is very strictly ketogenic, moderate approaches do show benefit. Some people will do better on a stricter program--some people who could benefit from a looser approach won't even show up, putting across that the diet needs to be stricter than it does can make it a harder sell. |
For flip's sake, it is ATKINS. They try to dance around it, but it is simply about dropping artificial sweeteners and stopping before reaching the top of the carb ladder... and people have been doing that all by themselves for years.
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Why do they make this way of eating sound so hard?? A person actually can live without bread (etc.), fruit, and sugar without being bored to death. In fact, I've learned that a person can actually watch a movie in a theater without eating anything! Imagine that.
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Long-term maintainers on this site are rather less visible than the Big Losers and the Beginners. But they/we are here. We're not touting the latest fad, whether IF or Keto or whatever. We're just doing what we learned to do, what we need to do, to keep our pesky metabolisms in check. Best wishes! |
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Weight loss is only one of the many benefits of eating in a healthy way. Weight loss is one of the most dramatic effects of low carb eating but long term maintenance of health is truly the most important long term result of a low carb diet. It is not outwardly dramatic but it is truly the highest good that can be derived from this way of eating. Long live the maintainers! (at least that is what we hope.) Jean |
Just realized, what am I going to do without grains, bread, cereals, fruit, starchy vegetables or sugars? I've been doing this for a long time, and after reading the article, I've finally come to my senses. Wow! I must eat a very boring diet and when eating out during my social and business activities and never having ordered or specified a "special meal," how have I survived? Where have my muscles gone???
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Perfectly grilled steak and steamed asparagus coated with butter & salt sound oh so boring (not!). They are the sorts of things I wished I could have when on low-cal fat free diets in the 1980s & 1990s. When you are not hungry all the time, a ketogenic diet is so easy to follow that I often forget to eat. That never happened when snacking on 100 calories of carefully-counted-out fat-free low-salt pretzels with the rest of the bag calling out to me from the cupboard!
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Oh, the terror of eating out! NOT. Last night we dined (somewhat reluctantly but conveniently) at a national steakhouse chain restaurant. The 12 oz prime rib was perfectly cooked. The tossed salad (usual ingredients) was crisp, and the blue cheese dressing acceptable. The broccoli was outstanding!
Nobody forced me to eat anything from the extensive menu of "shareables" (heavily breaded and fried) or the dessert card. Nobody made me drink the $10 margarita (bet that involved a bit of sugar, no?) Anyway, did I feel deprived? Did I mention the excellent prime rib? The buttered broccoli? I'm never going back to low-fat, calorie-counting torture. |
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I think the Real butter on veggies is the best part of this WOE...with a nice steak and mushrooms sautéed in butter of course LOL. .
One lady I was explaining this to thought she would have to eat less food but I explained that it's just the opposite. When I was heavier, I could never understand how I could eat so little and not loose weight. It's not how much I eat but what I eat. |
What gets me about the headline - "High fat, low carb Ketogenic diets work, but you’ll have to be disciplined" - Um, have they noticed that a low fat, high carb diet can also work (at least for some people), but you need to be really, really, really disciplined to stick to that, especially since you're required to eat starvation rations, and endure near constant hunger?
No thanks, give me LC any day over that nonsense - been there, done that, still wearing a lot of the results of the uncontrollable cravings that resulted, because I couldn't be disciplined at all, when I was so incredibly hungry all the time. |
All weightloss, or achieving ANYTHING worthwhile EVER, requires discipline...
Is that a bad thing? Discipline? Heavens no! Never discipline. Anathema! Eschew that! I'm sorry. But that is the stupidest argument. :mad: |
Living and enjoying life requires discipline. Amazing that some think everything should be a skate.
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It is funny that they imply constant effort; when that was my experience with the low calorie version, the low fat version, the portion control version, the exercise constantly version... Low carb has been, and continues to be darn easy. :lol: There's been a lot of tweaking, a illness challenge, and some backsliding along the way, but it's also been one of the the easiest accomplishments I've ever done. :agree: |
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