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JEY100 Fri, Jan-12-18 05:53

Ketogenic Diet on morning TV show.
 
A very positive segment on a morning TV show about the Ketogenic Diet. A friend excitedly told me "my Diet" was on TV (of course I have been talking about it seven years, but Iím not Kelly :rolleyes: This woman lost 120 pounds, the Resources on her website list Why We Get Fat with Dr Westman's Diet, two Phinney&Volek Books, so it appears her Diet was "well-formulated, and the recipes on her website look good. She is in NYC next Weds on book tour. Amusing to compare the reaction from Dr Oz to Gary Taubes six years ago to the reactions this year to the "Ketogenic" Diet.

https://www.dietdoctor.com/suzanne-...lost-120-pounds

cotonpal Fri, Jan-12-18 06:31

Quote:
Originally Posted by JEY100
A very positive segment on a morning TV show about the Ketogenic Diet. A friend excitedly told me "my Diet" was on TV (of course I have been talking about it seven years, but Iím not Kelly :rolleyes:


Well, if it's as shown on tv it must be true :).

Jean

RawNut Fri, Jan-12-18 07:02

Thanks for posting. That was a lot more positive than when she was on MKT. The dietitian said keto was taxing on the kidneys and liver. https://youtu.be/6ArnYErCSps

GRB5111 Fri, Jan-12-18 09:45

Joy Bauer, resident nutritionist for Megan Kelly Today, is very defensive, since keto represents the proof that everything she learned about nutrition is wrong.

RawNut Fri, Jan-12-18 10:55

Quote:
Originally Posted by GRB5111
Joy Bauer, resident nutritionist for Megan Kelly Today, is very defensive, since keto represents the proof that everything she learned about nutrition is wrong.


And she's just plain wrong. LCHF improves liver enzymes and fatty liver. Dr. Sarah has even seen reversal of kidney disease in some of her patients. https://youtu.be/aRAhajcX64M

JEY100 Fri, Jan-12-18 14:29

I thought Suzanne did a great job as a keto spokesperson on Megan Kelly Today. A good response was to ignore Bauer's comments on kidneys and emphasize the positive, her improved tests, her doctor's support, and of course the audience saw her sitting there as living proof of her amazing weight loss and glowing with health. Ended with positive medical results and weight loss so a viewer would tend to discount the whiny RD comments in the middle. :)

https://www.today.com/video/woman-s...t-1129153091914

GRB5111 Fri, Jan-12-18 16:20

MKT & Suzanne - A real-life version of the Emperor's New Clothes . . . in reverse.

Meme#1 Fri, Jan-12-18 17:50

It's the egg white generation that will need retraining
and even then ....because after all, those egg yolks will
cause liver failure and who knows what will become of our kidneys!! :lol: :lol: :lol: ;)

forsythia Sat, Jan-13-18 20:46

It is interesting to me that Bauer said there was no research or information on Locarb/Keto diets/way of living and not sustainable. She clearly doesn't know what she is talking about when there is SO much information out there. You've got to ask is it just ignorance or ignoring facts?

M Levac Sun, Jan-14-18 03:59

I think Bauer said there's no large scale long term studies. That's true, but then again there's no large scale long term studies for any diet. She also said she doesn't know what happens when you tax your organs and really restrict carbs. Well then, she can't possibly give any kind of advice about that, ya? Strangely enough, she explains what ketosis is, when she just said she doesn't know what happens when you really restrict carbs, doh. As far as I'm aware, ketosis has no detrimental effect whatsoever. I mean, she says there is, but doesn't tell us the source. On the other hand, hyperglycemia - when ya eat da carbs, ya - certainly causes detrimental effects on the kidneys and the liver. On the up side, she says keto suppresses appetite and boosts metabolism, "and that's all great". She also says losing weight by any means improves all markers, and that's true, but then the A-TO-Z experiment says keto - i.e. Atkins - just does it better.

About those non-existent large scale long term studies. Even if there was, Bauer couldn't possibly tell us about them, cuz she's not a trained scientist, i.e. she isn't trained to interpret the data objectively, if at all. Also, don't need large scale long term (implied = observational), small scale short term will do just fine (implied = experimental) and we got plenty of those.

I wonder if anybody ever explained to Bauer that when you eat a standard diet, and then you eat less to lose weight, you have no choice but to eat less carbs? She'd be no match for Taubes, methinks.

GRB5111 Sun, Jan-14-18 12:56

Methinks she's no match for many on this forum . . .

Squarecube Tue, Jan-16-18 15:20

Quote:
Originally Posted by Meme#1
It's the egg white generation that will need retraining
and ....snip... :lol: :lol: :lol: ;)


It is possible to be retrained. I did it. This weekend I had a broccoli cheese omelette, to which extra whites were added (leftover from another recipe). I wasn't in charge and didn't add them, but was immediately tiffed that I would be eating this "unhealthy" food. It suddenly occurred to me that it wasn't like eating bread or sugar, and wasn't really bad for me. I laughed when I realized that 15 years ago I thought the exact opposite.

Squarecube Tue, Jan-16-18 15:26

Quote:
Originally Posted by M Levac
I think Bauer said there's no large scale long term studies. That's true, but then again there's no large scale long term studies for any diet. She also said she doesn't know what happens when you tax your organs and really restrict carbs. ,.......snip


I've been reading some the keto and cancer books, and it's interesting they they all mention how lucky they are to have this diet previously used for epilepsy, cuz many studies have been done for to test for safety.


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