Does anyone know what Dr. K says about hunger and feeling hypoglycemic? Specifically, when starting his plan? I'm on Day Two, using ratios 1p:2.5f:0.8c. It is less protein and carb than I'm used to, and about the same fat. Yesterday, I was really shaky and out of it, but attributed it to inadequate sleep. Today, however, has been worse, and I nearly passed out, so ate some berries stirred into a sourcream/yogurt mix. I feel a little better, and am about to go drink some cream (I think it'll help a lot), but until I get my books from Poland (I assume it'll take about a month!), I'm relying on ALC and other online resources (like hyperlipid).
Thanks for any insight. Sorry this was disjointed. |
Yes, he says you can add a few grams of carbs for situations like that. I think the number is, 15-20 should do the trick. Just like what you did!
He also says you can have more grams of protein (and correspondingly less fat) in the first weeks, especially for older people. I think that means about age 40 or when things start to go south. The reason is, it takes at least a few days for the enzymes and other metabolic "helpers" to downregulate carb enzymes and upregulate fat enzymes. And it can take weeks for the organs to get used to the switch to running on fat instead of protein/carb. |
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Phew, what a relief! Thank you so much for this information, that is a big help to me :) :) :) I'm ~39.5, which rounds up to "40 or when things start to go south"... but I try not to dwell on it! :p Thanks again, Seejay |
you are welcome! i love to see more OD folks.
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I have found that when my carbs go too low, as on Atkins Induction or zero carb, I start to feel edgy, and it doesn't go away. I assume this is caused by the cortisol I'm putting out, to keep gluconeogenesis going. When I was younger I didn't experience this, but now, at 57, I do. It's probably the result of a sluggish liver, compromised by fructose, alcohol, and PUFA. The OD has enough carb to keep me from getting edgy. For the sake of my liver, I favor starches (obviously in small quantities) over anything with fructose.
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Is it possible for people (like my wife, 61 yo), whose gall bladder was removed about 15 years ago, to adopt the Optimal Diet?
As you would know, the gall bladder is a key organ for the digestion of fats. |
Ubizmo that is exactly like me. I don't like the hyper adrenaline buzz of VLC. Also my liver was compromised too, just like yours, it sounds like.
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I wonder what Garrett Smith means in the above quote by palaeo eating having holes big enough to drive a truck through. (I can't speak for the Zone diet as it is not palaeo.) Google the Evolutionary Health Principle and you'll see why I think palaeo eating and lifestyle is impregnable! But thanks for making me aware of the Body Ecology approach. |
I posted in your other thread, Myrmecia, but I have had my gallbladder removed and have no issues continuing with my high fat diet. It was a little bit uncomfortable while I was reovering (due to the air they pump in for the surgery) but that was the only time that I had any trouble. Once the air moved, I was good to go.
Mine was removed because it had shut down completely and had become infected. It was not functioning at all, and for who knows how long. Once the infection started was when the pain started. Anything I ate set off an attack, so it came out. |
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Maybe it's about gut flora or something. That is an area not talked about much. Or maybe it was just about whatever flavor of Paleo/Zone was getting all the attention in that forum at that time. He has a web site, DoctorAsTeacher.com. Maybe you can poke around in there. |
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If anyone else has experience eating high fat without a gall bladder, I'd very much like to hear from you. |
Has anyone ordered the books from Poland? I faxed my order last week, but it hasn't shown up on the CC yet. So I sent an e-mail yesterday, and though I know it hasn't been very long, haven't heard back yet. Do they notify you that they've received your order, or when it ships?
TIA :) I'm trying to figure out the best way for me to "back into" my OD ratios. Right now, ad lib eating has me at about 90g carbs, 90g protein, and fat to satiety. So I need to get both carbs and protein down. I'd like to just fast for a day or 2, cream and tea, to get into the groove, but I'm worried it'll mess up my hormones even more. Anyone have any thoughts about that? |
I just placed my order by postal mail last week, but have not heard yet. He does recommend a higher protein level when starting. There are some very long threads here with more info if you have time to search. Let us know if you hear about your books...
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