I'm with RawNut that the diabetes/big babies leading to C-sections might have something to do with this study's results rather than just affects of the surgery itself/lack of normal delivery on the infant. I had very large big babies due to gestational diabetes even while it was medically treated. These would have been C-sections had I been only an average sized woman. So perhaps the association found between a C-section delivery and fat infant is really the associations among a diabetic pregnancy, big infant delivered C-section and the affects of maternal diabetes on the infant's health.
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big baby doesnt need to equate c-section
i know someone who birthed a 14 lb baby vaginally. <shrug> she didnt have gest diabetes, just big babies. her other two kids were 12 and 10 lbs. |
WOw, those are big babies! My biggest weight 8lbs 8oz and she came out stick thin. She actually broke her clavical coming out. Later the dr. said she should have been C-section. Broken clavicals is a fairly commen thing in birthing, I didn't see the problem. She wasn't too big, I didn't dialate enough when she was coming and she was coming weather I liked it or not. My next child was 2 oz lighter, just as skinny, and he didn't have any problems, I was ready that time.
They now say, anything over 9 lbs should come out my c-section. I can see there concern, but gestational diabeties and bigger babies is becoming normal. Maybe they should find something to fix the problem, not just sweep it under the "baby blanket". |
My father weighed 13 lbs and was a natural birth. People can have big babies but now-a-days doctors usually schedule c-sections for babies that big or high-risk pregnancies.
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I'm just saying the dr.s are jumping to conclusions. At one time, babies, majority of, were more like 6-7 lbs. I'm sure there are some naturally large babies, but many are from mothers with gestational diabeates or obese mothers who's babies tend to be obese also (not necessarily though).
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Maybe it didn't look like it but I was agreeing with you. :)
We could test this by taking a few hours to shove newborn Cesarean babies through a small hole after injecting them with oxytocin and see if they grow up any skinnier. On second thought, we should probably use monkeys first. |
In that case, sorry :lol: I thought you were defending your fathers birth size as being normal and its ok. It is ok, if its truly his "natural" and healthy weight. I just hate to see over weight babies and so many c-sections that goes along with it.
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I'm just wondering if they checked the livers of the newborns at, say... their one month checkups? I bet they didn't...
So we cannot know if the liver enzymes regulated themselves in 72 hours and all the babies became indistinguishable, can we? |
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Sadly, they'd probably happily donate their babies to research if it meant saving an animal. |
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Ouch!!! :blush: :blush: :clap: |
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Thanks! I needed a laugh! :yay: :there: |
OK, so while we are on the subject, what terrible things will my kids have to live in dread of because I chose not to breast-feed?
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Thats an intresting question too, I don't think they will ever be able to answer that one.
My oldest, was a total formula baby, my second I breast fed till she was 6 months old, I was drying up, fine with me! My third I breast fed till he was 3 months, I had to have an operation, so I weaned him. I hate pumping and he took right to the bottle. Did I effect there growth by how I fed them? Keep in mind, my first was the c-section baby and a formula baby. He will be 13 in 3 weeks, tall and skinny. Some how, I have tought him to not stuff himself, and whats healthy, but he's a kid, he'll eat the good stuff too. But, he's probably the healthiest of all 3 of my children. My youngest is my "sickly baby," if he gets a fever, its going to be high (103.+) and going to last a week. My daughter gets something, its over in a few days and barely slows her down. My oldest very seldom gets anything, and it doesnt last long. I don't think any one thing at birthing or breast feeding, or not, is going to change that much. I could see if you fed you kid cows milk( they did that long ago, alot of tummy upset, diahrea and upset babies) then there may be a corrolation going on. |
Anastasia over at PrimalMedEd has done a couple of interesting posts about breastfeeding vs bottle and related topics:
http://primalmeded.com/2011/06/23/breastfeeding-i/ http://primalmeded.com/2011/06/26/l...ance-in-babies/ http://primalmeded.com/2011/07/13/g...other-nonsense/ I'm not a mother so I can't weigh in nor make any sort of judgement calls -- I just found her articles interesting and food for thought. |
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