anyone over 50 years in here?

[TarHeel]

I'm not sure where to post this; please move it, moderator, if there is a more appropriate place.

I am almost 60 years old, and it is so much slower to lose weight on this WOE than it was when I first tried it in 1973. There are probably a variety of reasons (retired now and much more sendentary, the "diet" has evolved into something which allows a good many more vegetables, etc) but some of it MUST have to do with the fact that my metabolism has changed a lot in the past 30 years.

So I would l especially like to hear from folks who are closer to my age (as well as ANYONE on these boards). I will settle for anyone who has a Country Joe and The Fish album somewhere in their closet. Heck, I will settle for anyone who even knows who
Country Joe is!

Kay

[GramnGramp]

I am 60, and have been on Atkins for 43 days. In that time I've only lost 6lbs. But I have "shrunk" a little.

I am not as active as I used to be. Trying to do better. Have been planting garden this week so maybe that will give me a boost...
I do feel better eating this way, but would be nice to see the pounds leaving a little faster.

My DH is losing much faster than I am. Men seem to have the
edge when it comes to dieting. But he also has much more to lose than I.

I will keep plodding along and see what happens.
Good luck to you.
p.s. who is Country Joe?

[Waterdragn]

Hi there! I am 50 .....does that count? When I started HRT my weight loss hit a brick wall and started creeping up. However I am persevering and do like this WOE. Hang in there, I am sure you will be pleased with the results. The metabolism does slow as we age. :(

[TarHeel]

Good to hear from the two of you! It sounds as though we have similar experiences. And Watergarden, sure, 50 counts!

I have been weeding, not yet planting annuals except in planters....though it is 83 here , whoops just checked again and it is 87 degrees now, we are quite likely to have annual freeze before we can count on spring. But the fish in my watergarden are loving being fed again after hibernating (or whatever they do) all winter.

I too plan to keep plugging away at this WOE even though I am not seeing a lot of results. After reading Atkins' book, I was expecting the weight to come off much more rapidly. Had I not found these forums and read about others' experience I would probably have given up. This is a great place to keep focussed.

Kay

[TarHeel]

oops, waterdragon, I've got watergardens on my mind. Sorry about mangling your name!

[Anikatt]

Hi, I'm 51 and can relate to what you're going through. Being a repeat Atkins (restarted 3 Feb) and yo-yo dieter for years, plus HRT, weight loss is definately crawling. Up and down about 3 lbs since mid Feb. One of the things that keeps me going is attending Curves 5 days a week, once a month they weigh and measure, so was down 3 inches and 6% bodyfat. Also lurking on this forum helps my motivation just knowing this is not totally abnormal and there are others experiencing some of the same stuff. This time around I feel totally comitted to this wol because all in all I do feel better physically and most of the time mentally. I'm usually just a lurker on this forum but your post made me want to say hi and do hang in there. That's my 2 cents! Have a great day :roll:

Anita

[GramnGramp]

TarHeel, just wanted to tell you that my DH and I visited your state recently and really enjoyed the trip.

Those mountains are beautiful. Would like to come back when the trees are fully leafed out. We were in North Wilkesboro for a few days.

Good luck with you weight loss.

[julienne]

hello, I am 55, my start with Atkins was rather undocumented, and it is just the past month that I have really been keeping track with FitDay,

I am losing slowly too, under a pound a week, and I have been exercising at the gym 4-5 days a week,

I wish the fat was burning quicker too,

something tells me that it is part carb creep, I am not planning my meals, just recording what I gobbled at the end of the day, and not measuring accurately perhaps,

I have also not been eating vegetables, they are the hardest for me to make, and perhaps the way I gained all this fat in the first place,

I am taking some time off the gym until Monday and then I am going to do my cardio and circuit training MWF only and use T and Th to plan meals, make some ahead,

but for now slow is fine, the most important thing has been my improved health, my joints no longer hurt, I am sleeping, except for having to get up to pee all the time with the water we are supposed to drink,

hang in there, julienne

[Mickeymac]

Woodstock (original) happened long ago which makes me at a mature age also :).

[TarHeel]

Ah mickey mack. One two three four, what're we waitin' for? Seems no way to post to your jounal or whatever. Have you just been sitting aound for ten months?
Kay

[adnil53]

Afraid I don't know who Country Joe is... sorry. I am 49, but will turn 50 in August... Thought I'd stop in and say hello... I've been doing low carb for awhile now. I always seem to slip up and eat things I shouldn't. But I am still trudging on... I do wish you success and if you stick to this, I am sure success will be yours!

[jsandrock]

Hi -- just thought I'd say hi and respond -- I am 56, started Atkins back in September at about 195 lbs (I'm only 5 feet tall so that was a lot for my teeeny frame!) but knowing how slowly I lose I vowed I would never get on the scale, just buy (or revive from my closet) pants that were too small and keep trying them on. This has worked SOOO much better for me than being a slave to the scale and letting it determine whether I have been "bad" or "good" for the day. I know my weight loss is proceeding at a snail's pace and I have no idea what I have lost in pounds but I started at size 22 and am now a 16! That is incontrovertible evidence that it works if you stick to it!

I'd say ditch the scale and buy some "reference" jeans and try them on once a month till you can fit into them; then replace those with another pair that are too tight and proceed that way.

It just comes off more slowly at our age, I am sure.

Good luck!

Jsandrock

[TarHeel]

Hi jsandrock: Thanks for the encouraging words and seeing your stats was the most encouragment of all! I do have a couple of pant-o-meters (actually short-o-meters) and when I first posted this thread, they weren't fitting much better either. I think things have changed a bit this week....I have some doctor's type scales (with the weights you move at the top) and have them set to my next mini-goal of 140 and am looking forward to the day when they balance! Being 5 feet tall like you are, I am well aware that every few pounds sticks out pretty noticeably.

Kay

[Bankerchik]

Hi TarHeel (and everyone else)! Of course I know (and love) Country Joe & the Fish...your original post made me laugh. I'm 51 and am on Atkins for the second time. Naturally it's going much, much more slowly this time. I KNOW I should stay off the scale but am just fixated on that weigh-in each morning. Maybe I should just break the darned thing!

Last time I did Atkins was five years ago...don't you just kick yourself for not staying with it then and for regaining all the weight? (At least I did.) My life has changed a lot in the last five years, and my metabolism has definitely slowed too.

Guess I'm going to have to accept that this will not be a quick fix, and I'm going to have to stay with the program the rest of my life. It's tough to think I'll never really be able to eat bread again though--that's the thing I miss the most. I like to bake it and love the artisan breads that are so popular right now.

This is almost the end of week 4 and my loss is stuck at 10 pounds since halfway through week 2. I've been keeping a log of everything I eat, which does help keep me honest, but of course what I really need to do is exercise more. Tough to find time and easy to find excuses not to do it.

Nice to find other people in my age group and experiencing the same kinds of challenges.

LuWana

[Pat S.]

Hello Everyone,
I am 61 and losing so slowly I just started again if I don't watch calories I gain weight darn. :( It is good to find a thread of we more mature folks when I was in my 20's I could lose weight without a thought not now Yikes. :daze: Good Luck to you all, Pat S.

[katrine77]

Hello everyone,
Thanks for starting this thread, TarHeel. 'and it's five six seven, open up the pearly gates. Ain't no time to wonder why, whoopee we're all gonna die" ...hmmm...Country Joe's song is even pertinent today.
I am 51 and I started this woe just about a year ago. I lost a lot at first, although I don't really know how much cuz I also don't use scales. I thought I would reach my goal weight by my 52nd birthday in October of this year but it sure doesn't look that way. I am starting to think that this might be a 5 year plan rather than a 2 year plan.
I know that I am overdoing it on carbs...somedays getting almost 60 grams! yikes. But most days hovering aroudn 30-35.
However, I feel GREAT! and will never go back to my high carb ways. I am in this for life!
So happy to find other's my age. I wonder if there are any articles or info from Dr Atkins regarding age and this woe.
Nice to see you all here!
:wave: kathy

[jude]

Hi Everyone,

It's great to hear from people in my age group (I'm 60). There's a lot of talk about slowing metabolism the older we get and I guess its probably true, but I can't say I'm unhappy with my results so far. I've been doing Atkins for about 8 months and I'm down 48 lbs. Not bad for an old broad, I think. Certainly better results than I ever had doing low fat, low cal--and the food is so much more appetizing.

Now if I could only stop procrastinating and start exersizing.

judy

[tigeraspen]

Hey all,

This sounds like a friendly bunch so I am hoppin' on!

I am 50, very soon to be 51. Am low carbing it again. The weight is not moving but I feel GREAT. So I have decided the weight loss is secondary. My clothes fit better and I am getting weight loss compliments. :D

I know I will start to lose once I get back to golf and tennis and also getting the outdoor grill fired up. It has been a tough winter here in the Northeast.

Your stories are encouraging. Thanks for the support! :wave:

[thumperjb]

I am turning 50 this year. I was on Atkins in my 30's and I lost much faster then. This time around it seems I have to stick with the plan much closer and count every little partial gram of carbs (spices even) and exercise more often to see results. When I was younger if I sorta kept to the plan I would still lose. My goal is to be to my target weight by my birthday :) It could happen, I figure turning 50 is a downer but if I face it with a thinner frame it will not be so bad.

[tigeraspen]

Hey Thumper,

Great loss so far. When is your birthday? Mine is April 24. My goal is 150 by 7/4. :roll:

Have a good day all!

[katrine77]

I was visiting the success stories yesterday and WOW :eek: some of those folks have done amazingly well with this WOE. It was so inspiring! :cheer:
One thing i did notice was that most of them were men. And the women were much younger than any of us.
I would like to read a success story of a middleaged woman, with more than 75 lbs to lose. Anyone seen anything like this on this forum?
Thanks.
k

[GramnGramp]

From a fellow turtle, just want to tell you that after 5 weeks of no loss, I am down 3 lbs this morning.

DH (the Hare) did not lose anything this past week. Maybe I will catch up with him. LOL, not likely, he has lost 25.5 lbs in the same amount of time that I have lost 9.

Oh well, at least he doesn't "rub it in". That could be because I cook all the meals!!!!! ;)

Keep the faith :exclm:

[Pat S.]

Hi,
I have just started losing after an after induction stall Yeah!! Now for the more mature set what are you suppose to do with the loose skin and wrinkles. LOL I think I need a miracle. Pat S

[tigeraspen]

WTG Gram!!!!!!!! :roll:

[JoNan]

Hi Everyone--this is the first time I've posted a note, although I've been a regular reader of all the forums. Guess the "Over 50 and Slow To Lose" struck a chord with me! I first began LCing WAAAAY back in the 60s when Dr. Atkins' first book hit the stands. I was still a young teenager, but wanted to be "thin and in" regardless. Was also anorexic for a spell before, so you could say I've done a real job on my metabolism. Back then I could easilylose 5 pounds a week. Not so today! :(

Anyway...I've LCed many times over the years, always with results...relatively...but the ONE thing I never learned then was that this must be a WOE, not a diet. Consequently, the weight always returned--sometimes quickly; sometimes more slowly.

So now I'm in the midst of what might be termed "The Final Battle" i.e. doing this properly at last, so results will be permanent.

Of all the things I think I've learned up to now, I think the following must be the most crucial to success:

1. This is NOT a "quick fix"; it must be a WOL
2. Patience and persistence are key: don't give up, for results WILL follow if you're determined and follow your plan.

End of epistle! I can't say how much I admire folk on this forum who have much more to lose than I do, but remain committed, enthusiastic, and positive throughout! Kudos to all of you!

[tigeraspen]

Poor Dr. Atkins.

He fell on the ice yesterday and had head surgery.

Bummer. :(

[musicmama]

Saw your thread and had to stop by......I just turned 56 last month,,,have been LC'ing since June 20th,2002....so far have gone from a tight size 26 to a comfy 20,,so I guess I cant complain,,,although like some of the others, I too did this in my thirties and lost a lot of weight faster. Oh well,,,,,,this time I am really doing it for health reasons. :D
I have noticed something neat,,,I can get up and out of the bathtub now,,,withoug having to get on my knees!!! That is a definate plus! :thup:
I did a real job on my metabolism too,,,,weight watchers,,,stillmans,,,physicians Weight loss clubs,,,,,,,anything I could try. But the difference is,,I never really committed to any of them. This is the longest I have stayed with any plan. I feel good,,,look better,,,,and it had finally become a way of life. I love it!

Great reading all your stories, keep posting!!

cya lighter :wave:

[tigeraspen]

Way to Go Musicmama!!!!!!!

Keep up the good work :thup:

Ellen

[willeke]

hi all! what a nice thread this is! I certainly fit in, am 53, post menopausal and this is my 3rd time on Atkins, and now for life, absolutely! I lose extremely slow, can't have cheese or nuts, then I even gain weight, but still, I did lose some weight and more will follow.
If I lose 10 pounds a year I will still slowly get thinner...
Of course I hope it'll go faster, but I cannot do more than my best. Tried the fat fast a few weeks ago, but felt so sick after two days that I've stopped.
Am eating a bit more vegetables now, because I didn;t lose weight, even when I stayed on induction level, and hoped that would sort of jum strat my metabolism!

Am planning to do more exercise, but really don't know where to find the time!

ah well, I hope this thread will run a long time!!!!!!

Willeke

[TarHeel]

Hi Everyone....I'm glad this thread seems to be proving helpful to us more mature folks. At first I was trying to reply to everyone personally, but then I started a journal and it is beginning to take way too long to respond to everyone everywhere.

But would like to say that I have lost two pounds this week after having been stuck for over three weeks.. And I put on a pair of pants today that I can't believe were ever mine (it is possible they weren't , but I'm not going there) since they are much too big. Weight loss for us continues to be slow, but much better than the alternative.

And I'm beginning to realize that things tend to slow down for almost everyone, not just us oldsters, as they continue on the journey, regardless of age or amount to lose. Makes me a bit annoyed at all the hype in the Atkins book but how else was he going to make money on it? I know, I know, he is in a coma, and I wish him well.....but I still feel a bit cheated by all the success stories in the book. Were it not from reading on this board I would have given up by now..... I AM extremely appreciative of the fact that he brought low carb eating to the forefront and to me. Just not convinced that he is quite the same category as Sister Theresa.

I'm not even sure Sister Theresa is in the same category as Sister Theresa. Good thing I'm not Catholic, saints make me nervous.

Hope I am not offending anyone; if so, I'm am sure I will hear about it!

Kay

[tigeraspen]

Hi Willeke, Welcome!

Kay, I appreciate your sense of humor for sure. It isn't easy, I agree. Congrats on the weight loss. I have been gaining and losing the same two lbs since I lost the first five. But what is keeping me going is I do not feel hungry although the choices do seem limited at times. Also the WOL is a fatigue buster for me.

I like the threads where there is support but not scrutiny. I am happy as long as I am not gaining. The weight loss will come in time.

Ellen :spin: :spin: :spin: :spin: :spin: :spin: :spin: :spin:

[willeke]

Hi Kay,
I can understand you're disappointed when you compare our speed of weightloss with what's in the Atkins' book, but believe me, the first time I did it, in the seventies, it really went as fast and as easy as he describes.
Later I read somewhere about the "golden shot", i.e. your metabolism isn't a machine and cannot automatically be put into the same diet mode and react the same every time.
When I had lost all that weight the first time, it stayed right off, until the doctor gave me tranquilizers to cope better with the illness and death of my young sister-in-law. Those pills made me gain back 20 pounds in 2 weeks and took away my determination to stay on Atkins. So in the course of time I gained it all back and a lot more.
The second time it went a bit slower, but still, it worked great. I was end thirties then and didn't even have a scale, but went by my clothes and it went fine. That was when I lived in Australia, and when I came back in the Netherlands, I was so stupid to not want to hurt people and say no when they offered me cookies etcetera, so there I went again.
In January 2002 I started the Radiant Recovery Program, and with that I lost 6 pounds or so in 10 months' time, with a LOT of hunger.
So then I decided to give that up and I swithed to Atkins in November. I feel much better and never hungry anymore, only when it's time to eat and that is so great! No more strong mood swings either, but that may be thanks to my hormonal condition which is hopefully balancing out a bit by now.

Wow, this has become a lot longer than I intended, hope you still know what I wanted to say, i.e. that Atkins told us the trutch, but maybe at that time he didn't know that you can only do it with a lot of fast success when you do it for the first time. But still it is a healthier way of life, and we WILL lose weight when we persevere, and in such a nice way, too <g>!

a happy weekend to all,
cheers
Willeke

[tigeraspen]

Hi Willeke,

What is the Radiant Recovery Program? And thank you for telling your story.

I have had good sucess on weight watchers all the way down to 150, then I switched from teaching to administration and put the weight back on. I can say over a 15 year period I have kept the first 20 lbs of WW off as my highest was over 200.

I haven't taken my measurements but my jeans are fitting better. Next week is break week and I plan to measure up on Saturday. Today I put on my 14 petite reference jeans. They are comfortable to get up but do not fit across the belly.

So we can all persevere together...

:wave: Ellen :wave:

[BarbCA]

Hi all, I just found this thread. I'm 68 and started Atkins 6 weeks ago. Have lost only 6 1/2 lbs. but that's 6 1/2 less than when I started. My first stab at it was a couple of weeks prior, stayed with it for one week and gave it up. Gained back all but 2 lbs. so I started over again. Now I'm used to this WOE and I'm never hungry. I'm keeping my calories down a bit because of the slower metabolism.
Execise is a problem for me because of a foot problem that keeps me from walking except on alternate days. I also had Rotator cuff surgery last fall and I'm still in Physical therapy for that. My weight workout is very light due to that.
Lost 40 lbs. in 2000 on low cal/low fat but after a lot of family tragedy, lost DH, Dad and a niece. Sis lost everything in a fire, Mom had a stroke, I just gave up and started eating "normally".
I just want to get fit, lose some pounds and get my energy back. That 6 weeks with my arm strapped to my body so I could do nothing really took me down strengthwise.
Tarheel thanks for strting this.

[willeke]

Hi Ellen,
the Radiant recovery programme is based on the book Potatoes, not Prozac. I had gained 30 pounds in a few months when the doctor put me on Paxil, and I never seemed to be able to get rid of those anymore- and did the Radiant program. It works very well for many people, only my metabolism is too sensitive to carbs, so I was starving as soon as I got in the weightloss stage.
Dr Kathleen Desmaisons is the creator of the program, and again, it is based on NO sugar, but lots of complex carbs, and for my body that was just too much.

Willeke

[tigeraspen]

Hi Barb! Welcome! You have been trough some ordeals. Hang in there. The support is great here.

Willeke,

Now I know what you are talking about. My cousin went on that program, but he is a skinny one.

I love the complex carbs however they do not love me. I was so tired before switching over, at 3 pm at work I would want to scream. I was exhuasted. Then I'd get home, get in bed and not be able to fall asleep. (part of that was job-stress related).

I am on celebrex for arthritis and norvasc for BP. I also take 1 or 1/2 xanex at bedtime if I need it. I'd like to consider getting off of meds but will take it in baby steps and under my Dr's supervision.


Ellen :daze: :roll: :daze: :roll: :daze: :roll: :daze: :roll: :daze: :roll:

[Joe1950]

I totally relate! I tried Atkins back in the 70's also and the pounds melted off and ketostix turned Deep Purple (another great band in addition to Country Joe!)

Now in almost a month, nothing seems to have happened. Sometimes the ketostix turn a little pink so I know I'm in ketosis. Also, craving for sweets has gone. But no weight loss!

[willeke]

Hi Ellen,
Yes, you're just as sensitive to carbs then as I am. I love bread and potatoes, but since I've been on Atkins, I don't mind not having them at all!
All medicines can influence your weightloss, I used to be on Istin for my bloodpressure, but have been off it now for about two months. I take L-carnitine and my BP is great - I measure it often just to keep an eye on it.
I understand about the Xanax, good idea to let your doctor help you with weaning off of that. If I can't sleep I take two vit B 1 (I think, it's thiamine) and that helps me relax and sleep.
I can't say my losing weight has much improved yet, since I've come off all those meds, but it may still happen!

cheers
Willeke

[willeke]

Hi Joe! I replied to you in my journal!
Willeke

[SueJ]

Last week I was prepared to post a good-bye to everyone. I'm on the longest stall in history! I lost about 5 lbs last November and nothing since. In fact, I've just kept regaining and losing the same couple of pounds for months now. But this WOE makes me feel good.

Everyone that I've recommended this too (all younger) I'm 53, has done really well. We eat our lunches together and discuss the plan ad nauseum.

Well, I've been following all the advice I've read on this forum and tried to do everything perfectly. I've also tried to figure out why it isn't working for me. I took tests to see if I had alergies that would cause the problem, ate extra fat, recorded everything on fitday, blamed myself for hidden carbs that I may have not known I was eating, blamed my mother for her cooking (see lives with me and at 84 is still underweight), you get the picture.

Well, I think I had a revelation...I'd been eating 10 times my goal weight in calories, and I believe that's the culprit. I started eating below 1000 a day, like I always used to do, and I'm down 2 lbs. Eureka! Maybe that 10x's rule works for the younger more lively crowd, but not for a mature, post-menupausal, non-athletic type like me (ha). My only exercise is walking, and then only when the weather is good.

So...how nice to meet you all! Maybe I'll stick around for a while longer. No one says you can't also count calories on this plan, even Atkins suggests watching your caloric intake. I'm eating plenty, but just made a few adjustments.

Thanks for starting this thread!

[TarHeel]

Sue: I just posted a note of encouragement in your journal. Check it out.....it looks as though you haven't been by your journal in a while.....

Kay

[tigeraspen]

Hi Sue! Nice to meet you!

Ellen

[SueJ]

Hey, this is working!!!

I can see the ounces melting away. I'm definitely down a full 2 pounds this week and can now see the scale moving down little below that.

Here's how my week has looked on average. I think my percentages are still very good. I'm just eating smaller quantities.

Average Calories
source grams cals %total
Total: 646
Fat: 46 413 65%
Sat: 18 166 26%
Poly: 5 49 8%
Mono: 14 128 20%
Carbs: 25 83 13%
Fiber: 4 0 0%
Protein: 34 138 22%
Alcohol: 0 0 0%

I was forcing myself to eat a lot more than I wanted before because of the 10x rule. I'm feeling great! I do take a fair number of supplements which I think is critical. I'm also keeping salt to an absolute minimum. Just a little and I retain water. Always did have that problem.

[willeke]

Hi Sue, it's great that you're losing weight, but are you serious? Are you really only eating 650 calries?? I cannot understand how you can functrion on so little - I know I couldn't. Don't you worry about starvation mode? Would it not be better if you took care to stay at 1600 cals or something?

I definitely don't want to rain on your parade, I'm just worried!!
take care
Willeke

[SueJ]

I'm ok, really. I have a very low metabolism, I only have a partial thyroid. I always ate under 1000 a day when I was at my ideal weight, but got far away from that as I got older. I've been on Atkins since last November and was eating an average of 1300+ a day and NOT losing at all.

I've decided this last week to go back to low carb/low calorie to see if it would work. So far, so good. I am eating enough, believe me. I'm just making the right choices.

We'll see how it goes, I'm giving it 2 weeks to see if I can just get things moving here.

Thanks for your concern.

[TarHeel]

Hi Sue: It's me again....Willeke is a very nice lady, in my experience, and it is easy to see why she would be concerned. But I am similar to you (as well as being 2 inches shorter) and understand what you are saying. In the past I have only been able to maintain or lose weight (no matter what I ate) on 1000 calories or less. Above that the pounds start creeping back up. I can JUMPSTART a low carb diet on a few more, up to maybe 1800 but no more than that. I am trying to be patient this time....hoping that I can have a little more to eat on low carb.....and at least I am not gaining. But I find myself energetic and feeling full on 1200 to 1400 calories, though I am not deliberately restricting them. It just comes out that way. I'm sure many folks out there would be ravenous and weak at that level. Even I would begin to feel a bit faint at less than 7 or 8 hundred. My point is that we are all different. It doesn't seem that your goal weight is unreasonable and over 5 months is a very long time to go without losing. I assume you are taking supplements. Not a long term solution, but you should be okay for the two week trial.

I do think you might be wise not to post your caloric intake publically on these boards, or you will continue to get concerned responses from extremely well meaning people.

Kay

[SueJ]

Hi Kay, and Willeke.

I reread my post to you Willeke, and I hope I wasn't sounding off base or anything. I'm just really finally losing weight and I guess I'm feeling like I've had a revelation.

I truly want Atkins to work. It just sounds so reasonable. And with everyone around me making it work, I know it's the right way to go about a healthy diet.

I'll keep on posting, but keep my calories to myself ;)

[Bankerchik]

Sue and Kay,

I think we're all old enough to know what works for our own personal bodies, and that's really how we make LCing and restricted calories work for us, don't you agree?

I've personally been on nearly every diet out there, at least briefly (some VERY briefly) and I know that higher protein, low carbs works best for me. When I restrict calories too much my metabolism slows down...and I just can't maintain the low, low calorie eating for long so soon I'm back eating far more and gaining weight. I'm also nearly 6' tall, which I suppose means my body needs more calories just to walk around.

As I said--we each know what works for US and that's what we should do, no matter what advice we get from others. I also think the age thing makes a big difference. When I was 30 I didn't have to do much to lose weight: eliminate snacks and desserts and it was done. After 35 it got more difficult and now each year that passes means more effort to lose just one pound.

I visited our local "Lo Carb Habit" store yesterday and the place was packed! They were giving out free samples of stuff, including tortilla chips and pizza, and even serve ice cream treats like shakes and sundaes, etc. I bought some Atkins shake mix and endulge bars (Kay you are right about those!!) and one bag of low carb pasta. But I know I have to take it easy on the LC treats and pasta, even, because they seem to get in the way of weight loss for me if I overdo it.

And now it's a new week--here's hoping we all have a great one and can update our stats with more good news this week.

LuWana

[willeke]

Hi Sue,
I'm glad you have that experience with your body, and I'm still just so amazed! Whenever I do 1000 calories, I just don't have any energy left whatsoever. Truly, all I can do then is get out of bed, "throw" the dogs out, and fall on my chair at my desk and work at the computer and I am so very very tired then all day! I know for I tried this again and again and had to stop every time because it just isn't practical for me.
And lose weight I do not that way ... that's why I was so surprised and sincerely concerned. I am glad you appreciated that I didn't mean anything critical! Do you still have energy, and do you have any medicine for your half thyroid? Let me know if you think I'm too nosy, I'm just truly interested!
And it's great that you now have found the way to lose weight again!

Willeke

[SueJ]

Hi Willeke,

Well, I realize 1000 may not be correct for lots of people, it's only 300 less than I was eating before. If you look at it that way, maybe it's not so bad.

I think I was 24 when I had my thyroid removed. At that time I was tested several times and told that what was left was working. It was not recommended that I go on any medication as long as I was able to keep my weight down. I've had it tested periodically and always told everything's fine. I just have always had one heck of a time losing, but it was always a lot easier when I was younger.

I truly have tons of energy after a week of cutting back. Yesterday, I did wind up with 1300 for the day, but my weekly average is below 1000. My carb count is 30 or less each day, and what I eat is the same as before, only a little less. I'm truly stopping eating as soon as I am full.

My mother lives with us and prepares the meals. She gets so mad a me if I don't eat everything she prepares or if I don't finish what's on my plate (she puts it all on there). :rolleyes: My husband and my children all cringe when it's time for dinner because it's usually a three-course carb plate. We're all carb consious.

She served left-overs last night, which is why my calories went up a little for the day. Our choices were ravioli and marinara sauce, hot wings, and potato salad. Needless to say, I ate the wings which were fine from a carb point of view, but high in calories.

So, anyway, I'm still down 2 lbs for the week, which I think is absolutely great after nothing for so long. One more week, and I'll assess how well this worked. If I go back to anything, it will only be going back to not counting calories, and maintaining the 30 carbs and under.

By the way, I appreciate your concern. It's so nice to have someone who cares.

[HLFAN]

Hi there, Tarheel, just found this thread. I sure remember Joe
MacDonald!!

I am a real slow loser too. I take a half dose (.3) Hrt each day. It's just the bare minimum to keep the hot flashes at bay. Well, I still get some but used to get several an hour, now it's only several a day.

I see you are retired. I'm still working and I work with lots of young guys. Hard to turn red and sweat all the time. :lol:

I'll be 53 next week. Although I have a gym membership, I sure don't use it enough. I do alot of gardening in the summer and walk the dog etc.

I was reading the thread about low calorie. Lo-cal does nothing for me. If it did I'd be pretty skinny. Low carb is going pretty slow but at least I am losing. Lo-cal I always seemed to end up heavier in the end :q: Why is that. I think I would get so hungry that eventually I'd give in and binge. Now my binge eating is history.

Funny, but for the last several years, the lower cal I went, the fatter I got. Starvation plays havoc on the mind!!!

Good luck to all, HL :wave:

[TarHeel]

Wow, HL, you have lost a LOT of weight! Very impressed.....Never had any trouble with hot flashes when I went through menopause at age 40, just lucky I guess. Though what did happen was changes in metabolism and the weight started adding up and not going away. I can lose weight on low calorie diets but can't stay on the diet. Eventually I get almost nauseous and feeling terribly deprived and before I know it I am no longer eating anything close to a low calorie diet. And then before I know it I am back to where I started. Low carb keeps me happy and satisfied and I can stick with it.

Yes, I am lucky to be able to be retired. Took early retirement from the state which means they don't really support me, but our small house was paid for and except for gardening expenses, we have a fairly low maintainence life style. Vacations are almost free as we tent camp.....except for having to board a rather frenetic dog. Her boarding fees are always much higher than any other part of our month long vacations. My husband is still working; he is younger than I, and except for the occasional filet mignon, we are doing fine. Having no kids helps.

I may have to look and see if Country Joe has a website and let him know that he is being memorialized here in this forum!

My best to you,

Kay

[JudeJudy]

Hi All :wave:

I just found this thread, so thought, seeing I'm over 50 (51) I'd stop in and say hey! I started on Atkins almost 5 weeks ago and have lost 5 lbs and that was very early on. I was hoping for a bit better pace, at least not a 4 week stall- but feeling so good with it, that I'm determined to give it my all. I haven't read the entire thread yet- but plan on lurkin around here in the future ;)


Best of Luck to All!

Jude :rose:

[willeke]

Hi Jude!
I am a very slow loser, too, and maybe it's an idea for you to go and look at the Turtle Club here on this forum. There is a sticky here with all kinds of things that may be the cause that you lose weight slower than you think you shuold.
It may help!
cheers
Willeke

[Pat S.]

Hello Everyone,
Thought I would drop in and say hi.:) I have changed diets since I was last here and I love it I don't know why but Atkins didn't agree with me I kept trying to think it did but it didn't. The South Beach Diet I found is a lowcarb diet also but with a few twists like dessert every night like FF Fudgesicles or a Ricotta Creme.
Good Luck to us all. Pat S

[Meadow]

While I see that no one has posted here for awhile, I figured I would introduce myself anyhow. I'm 53, post menapausal. I've always been a yo-yo dieter, which I know messed up my metabolisim. I tried low-carb years ago, with no success. I seem to be more calorie sensitive, and always have had success with reducing calories...but ristricting calories was not sucessful for me in the long term, because I would soon grow tired of not eating and give up...always gaining more weight. After a total hysterectomy it seems nearly imposible to lose weight. I went back to low carb for a year.... lost 5 lbs and gained 10 when I got discouraged. Almost gave up. Then I hit upon a plan that I feel I will be able to live with the rest of my life. I'm doing a combination of lower carb and protion restriction. Notice I did not say calorie restriction. I don't count calories at all... I simply try to control the portions of what ever I do eat. Notice I also didn't say low carb... I do lower carb where my carb intake in about 40 to 60 carbs a day, but on occasion it my go higher. So far I'm doing well. I fell great and can eat most anything which will keep me on this WOE. That's been a major downfall for me in the past...I would start to crave foods. Not just foods full of carbs, but just food in general. I found that for me... to deny myself something for long periods of time, just cause me to crave it more. Anyhow, I'm still a turtle for sure, but at least I am seeing results which means that my head is not in my shell...right? LOL!

I've rambled on long enough. Just felt like sharing. Good luck everyone!

[Pat S.]

Hi Meadow,
Looks like there are two of us here. You know your diet sounds like the one I am on. The South Beach Diet isn't a lowcarb or low calorie is more a low glycemic. I wish you and I luck and anyone else who is reading this. :wave: Pat S

[tigeraspen]

Hi Meadow and Hi Pat,

I too have switched over to South Beach. Cutting down on the dairy and eating more veggies have really helped me out.

I basically low carb everyday and on special occasions, I will have a special meal and not overdo the carbs.

Keep up the good work!

Ellen :wave: :daze: :spin: :roll: :spin: :daze: :wave:

[Pat S.]

Hi Ellen,
I really am glad I am running into more people eating this way I know I sure feel better. There is a list at yahoo for ladies older that have started the diet SBD. I don't know if I am allowed to put the address on this site or not. If you want it let me know and I will email it to you. Pat S

[tigeraspen]

Hi Pat,

Send me the address via private message. Thanks.

Today was my administrative assitant's birthday, so I ate ice cream pie and went off the wagon. Tonight I will have some Vhick parm and a bit of pasta, the BACK ON TOMORROW.

Yes, I feel great!

Thanks for the reply!

Ellen :wave:

[Pat S.]

Hi Ellen,
I just private messaged you the address. Pat S

[abouttime]

i too just found this thread. I am 50 and started Atkins about a month ago. Did great the first week. Seem to hit that proverbial brick wall. Glad to wee that others are in the same boat. I have had no cravings and really am not hungry.
I was hoping that the fat would roll of quicker but I have lost 9 1/2 inches.
I need to ask since I am fairly new here, what does WOE stand for. Also, where can I find some information on the South Beach Diet that so many of you talk about.
Good luck to all. Stay with it. Slow losing is better that fast gaining!

[tigeraspen]

http://prevention.com/cda/feature2002/0,4780,5345,00.html

Abouttime....Here is some information on the South Beach way of eating (WOE). My fat is not rolling off but I feel so much better. :)

I bought the book. It did not tell me much of anything I did not already know but it does appear to have some wonderful recipes.

Never the less, I love diet books and find them inspirational. South Beach Diet has a great cover, almost like a summer novel.

It seems to be similar to the Zone for those of you familiar or Atkins ongoing weight loss.

Pat...thanks for the message.

Ellen :sunny:

[TarHeel]

Dear AboutTime: If you have lost almost 12 pounds in a month, you are doing amazingly well! Congratulations....the truth , if you start reading many of the posts around here, is that while Atkins was right and a great man, the stories in his books of incredible quick weight loss are pretty much apocryphal.

Slow and steady does win the race. And I, for one, find this a very comfortable WOE....which is, since you ask, "way of eating".

Aside from meeting some marvelous people here, I think the one thing that has impressed and helped me is the advice to drink at least 100 ounces of water a day. Preferably more. I have a hard time doing that, but every time I manage it, two days later I am down a pound. And there seems to be nothing else in my eating pattern to explain it. There are folks here who have tried to explain it over and over (bless them) but it still makes no really logical sense to me.....I am only a believer because my scales seem to prove it true.

Another piece of advice: Start a journal here. Mine is called "We shall See", not because I was questioning my ability to keep eating low carb, but because I was sure I wouldn't be able to keep up a journal. HAH! It keeps growing like Topsy....people here are so very supportive and great fun as well.

Good luck to you....you are off to a terrific start,

Kay

[tigeraspen]

Here is my crustless quiche recipe....

Ellen’s Crustless Quiche

1 package (high end) frozen chopped spinach
1+ cup shredded cheese
¾ cup sour cream
6 eggs
3 cloves crushed garlic
½ chopped onion
½ tea. Pepper
Dash of nutmeg
2 tab butter

Preheat oven to 350 degrees

Thaw and cook spinach, cool, and press out excess moisture

Sauté minced onion and garlic in butter

Beat eggs with sour cream and spices

Mix spinach into egg mixture.

Spray a 9x9 non-stick baking pan.

Place mixture into pan. Top with shredded cheese.

Bake at 350 approximately 25 minutes, until a knife comes out clean and the mixture is not jiggly. Low broil the top cheese until light brown.


Enjoy!!!!!

Ellen

[tigeraspen]

Ooophs....another question

Where is the hamburger quiche recipe?

Thanks a bunch...

Ellen :wave:

[marilynuuu]

:wave:
I am 58. I am disabled. I have lost more wt than it usually says on the left side. 53 pounds since Sept 1,2003
I understand every post so I just joined this thread. I have stayed the same wt for 2 months. I was not attempting to loss during this period. I needed to prove to myself that I would not inhale and gain it all back.
When I was losing I was going to an indoor pool and water walking 3 x a wk. The kids have taken that over and it is,as of yet , to cold to swim outside.
I am unable to walk 20 yards if not in water with a noodle or other float device.
I have made some of the soy breads and muffins on the LC recipe forum. It helped my drive to eat bread. My teen even approves of most of them.
I need to get stimulated and involved again.

[scottjan]

Hi! I am 57 and so very delighted to have found this thread. I think we need our own place on the boards and not just in the turtle club. Who do we ask?

For our age, we haven't done so badly. In fact, I think we have done very well.

Often when I am reading the boards on Adkins, I think these are young people who don't really have a handle on this wol (way of life) or woe (way of eating). Usually, they are more concerned about weightloss than in health improvement. :daze:

I lost well at first, but am slowing down. But my health improves everyday. I feel so much better!!!!!! What more can I ask?

[TarHeel]

Hi Scottjan: I understand about your reaction to "the kids". However, I find most of them are much more aware of what their diet is doing to/for them than I ever was at their age. It can be a bit of a shock to realize that so many folks here were not born until long after we graduated from high school.

One even begins to pick up on the lingo. (I'm not sure if this is a good thing or not). But a good part of my life these days is spent at my elderly father's retirement community, and the younger folks on these boards present a refreshing balance.

Every now and then, I find myself skipping as I walk someplace. Then I stop and think: Is this a seemly thing for an almost 60 year old lady to be doing? I still feel like a kid in so many ways. So I think I will keep skipping if I feel like it.

Good luck to you Feel free to stop by my journal and visit me.

Kay

[scottjan]

Hi TarHeel!

Please accept my apology for the comment on young people. I have been "putting my big foot in my mouth" everytime I turn around today. I did not realize my comment was so negative.

Many of their comments are very helpful and I have used many of their suggestions. They are a very bright group and very concerned with improving their lives.

I hope I haven't offended anyone unintentionally.

I was just so happy to have found a thread concerning people closer to my age. I would love to hear more from these people about their successes, trials, and tribulations.

Thank you for starting the over 50 topic.

[Pat S.]

Hi Scottjan,
I am glad you found this thread. I understand what you ment it is different for younger people. I for one am not going to work towards wearing a bikini to many wrinkles I would have to iron me before I tried :rolleyes: Pat S

[JudeJudy]

Hello Everyone :wave:

Its been awhile since my first visit ...so nice to see some new faces here :)

Marilyn~ I have found great support in the forum here..so you have come to the right place for stimulation and involvement! AND~~~53 lbs! what an achievement! :thup: Are you thinking of starting a journal? :)

[marilynuuu]

I have never gotten into the journal portion that is offered on this site. Maybe it would help me get going again. I will start reading some other members journals.
The one I have read , a long time ago, had a lot of writing each day. I have never been very wordy.
I have to see if there is spell check there. I am so spoiled by having it.
How many of you journal? Do you do a daily entry or a wkly? Lead me to your sites so I can get the idea. Do you think doing a journal has helped your food program?
The only thing I have to compare it to is the time I spent in OA and the sharing I did there. I loved that and kept my wt down for 5+ yrs. Then OA died in this state. Atkin's is the only other......non medication thing......that has really worked for me.
At this point in my life I have to take certain medications and diet meds are out.
We have our first warm sunny day in a wk. I have shorts on and feel good about wearing them. How nice to feel ok with me.

[TarHeel]

Scottjan: No apology needed. As with everything else, you have to pick and choose whose journals you follow, and it's easy to discover which members are really working on low carbing in a realistic way.

Marilynuuu: Many of us in this thread have journals. Just click on the word "journal" at the end of each post, and you will be led to that member's journal.

There's no need to be wordy in your own journal, and you can make up any schedule you like for how often you post to it. Sorry, there is no spell check (I hate that part, too), but you can always write your post somewhere else (I use my email), spell check there, and then cut and paste into the journal. What I find most helpful about it is the support one gets from others once they get to know you a bit. I also think it keeps me honest.....if I don't stick to the diet, I wouldn't feel comfortable posting in my journal, and I REALLY, REALLY don't want to lose the journal!

WARNING: Journalling on this forum is highly addictive!!

Good luck,
Kay

[penelope]

I am over 50.I have been looking around for some explanation for my very slow loss.

http://menopausediet.com/News/digestion.htm

This site help me do my Atkins .

I just mix the two. I love reading journals but I am a terrible writer.
I am suffering from English as a second language and no spellcheck.This very nice to meet you all.
:) Pene

[TarHeel]

Pene: That was really interesting....never heard most of that before. And I've been post menopausal for almost 20 years. Can't say that I found it "cheery", but it was interesting. Thanks for posting it. And welcome to this thread.

Kay

[Pat S.]

Hello Pene,
I am glad you joined us don't worry about your spelling I have been trying for years to get it right.;)
Pat S

[bevbme]

I'm 53 now-went through menopause 4 or 5 years back. Weight gain all went to my belly. Not that I was thin before but carried extra in my hips/bust. Hourglass figure but not a pretty one.
This weight makes me short of breath and not able to move well its got to go.

I have hot flashes after any food intake do these go on forever?

HRT not an option-about the time I think I want them they come out with all this bad news,

Weight loss stalled since February.Low carb may not be for me

[gerriz]

Hi All, well I'm heading around the corner to 61 and it sure is harder to lose. Although I did great on Induction(13 lbs, 2wks) I have slowed down to about 1 lb a week. I know I'm not as active as I use to be, the old joints creak and moan and let me know when they've had enough. So even though it's slow it's relatively easy, and being retired I have more time to cook and prepare the right food. I love it, wish I would have started 15 yrs ago.

[TarHeel]

Hi: Just checking in. I guess it depends upon how much one enjoys eating low carb stuff. My weight loss is really, really slow, but it continues, eventually, and I don't feel like I am missing anything. I have a couple of alcoholic drinks, not sweet ones, every evening, and while I bet the loss might be a bit faster if I didn't have them, I'm trying to do something I can stay one without feeling as though I am on a deprivation diet.

I'm sorry to say (well, not sorry, but sorry I cannot commiserate) that I didn't have any real problems during menopause. However, my body temperature seemed to undertake a major change, so that I now have a really narrow window of comfort. I'm freezing below 69 and hot above 73 now.

And yes, my joints creak. And since doing this lc business, when I am down on my knees planting in the garden, my feet cramp up and give me fits trying to find a comfortable position. Other than that, life is fine....

Kay

[dancermom]

Can I join you guys? I remember Coutry Joe! I even dragged my 12 year old to a Lovin' Spoonful show at Epcot last week. I'm 50, having all sorts of health problems, and I've lost and regained the same 15 pounds about four times in the last year or so. I need to stick this time, a "support group" would sure help. I've started using Fitday religiously, I think that will help. And I visited a Women's gym close by this week, that's progress, isn't it? I'm going to go for a visit next week, but I'm allergic to most chemicals and not sure it's going to work out. May have to do it at home with tapes. Diana

[abouttime]

welcome, Diana.
This is a great place to be for support. i have had many question answer just wondering thru the different threads. It has helped to keep me on track. My loss has has been slow but steady and thats OK.
Also you can fine some great recipes so thinks don't get boring.
hAPPY LCing, Ginger

[StarAnise]

I am so glad to find this site. I have posted plea after plea about my slow loss. My entire office is on Atkins. Their average weight loss is about 11 pounds a week. Me, I have lost 5 pounds since April 20, 2003. I am 60 and do kickboxing 5 to 6 days a week and lift weights. My co-workers do not exercise and one is older than me. I am sticking with it, but it sure does get difficult at times - especially when the scales do not budge.

Should I be counting calories and watching the amount of meat I eat?

[scottjan]

Were you that active before you started Adkins? Just a thought that you already may have much more muscle than most of us when we started. Losing inches is great, maybe even greater than pounds. :hyper:

I have stalled too on the scale, but the inches are going down. Now, I am eating more calories, enjoying eating and living this way. I have many more pounds to lose than you, but I feel so much better. It's a difference between night and day.

I think you are doing great to have the energy to kickbox and lose inches. When looking at your journal, I agree that many much more knowledgeable people on this board may be able to offer some hints if you posted what you have been eating.

Just remember that turtles are much cuter than hares and at times do win the race. :dazzle:

Good luck!!!! :rheart:

[TarHeel]

Hi StarAnise: I checked out your other posts, so as not to recreate the wheel. One thing I can add, about the lack of change in the ketostix, is that I was getting positive results from mine for about a month, and then they stopped changing at all. And I had not added anything new into my eating plan. Finally went and bought a new bottle of them, and they again showed ketosis. Someone on this forum said that they go "bad" quite quickly when any moisture gets into the bottle.

And since I was born in New Orleans, I do know that it is "moist" there. Just a thought. But it is also true that some people just never get positive results from the ketostix. So who knows?

While the slow weight loss I (and you) are experiencing is very frustrating, it helps me to realize that if I were not doing this, I would probably be adding on a half pound or so a month.....so if you substract that from your net loss, it is a bit more encouraging.

Hang in there,

Kay

[Lorilynne]

:wave: Just checking in. Been doing pretty good on diet. Thinking about looking into South Beach Diet. Anyone tell me what is different about it from Atkins . Have alot of garden work to do. Raining as usual. Does anyone have polymyalgia r ? Everyone have a great day.

[gapgirl420]

Hello Everyone,

Just read through all these posts and realize that Hey! I'm a COUNTRY JOE FAN TOO!!!! Hope you don't mind my pushing my way in.

I'm 51 yrs old...over weight all my life...menepausal....take PAXIL,
HRT, battling a pinched nerve that forces me to take pain pills, sedintary lifestyle, carbaholic 100% :thdown:

I've been trying to begin a LOW CARB LIFE STYLE for quite a while, but every time I do, something pushes me back 50 paces!
I buy everything that I need to do it, begin and then something disheartens me and I grab the carbs to sooth myself! :mad:

I've told my storey in this forum so many times, that I've really tired of doing it...I feel like a failure to everyone on this board.
I'm one of those people who owns absolutely EVERY BOOK on the market and can tell ANYONE HOW TO DO THE PLAN, but I can't seem to practice what I preach!

I know that coming here every day is the key to success, but ...there's that BUT again....

I NEED HELP.....PLEASE!!!!!

GAP

[scottjan]

I see your diet is meat and green vegetables. Do you exclude sugar as well? What else do you do? Exercise?

Do you feel better when following you woe? That has been my greatest benefit.

I also had a blood sugar spike before I began Atkins which has helped me stay on the straight and narrow. I'm not really tempted to eat anything I shouldn't because I know what can happen with diabetes. Thankfully, my sugar level stablized by the time I tested again within a month.

Good luck with your woe!

[gapgirl420]

Hi,

I try NOT TO EAT sugar...it's never been my downfall, I'm fromthe SOUTH and it's been all fried food and gravies all my life..ALTHOUGH...I am so surprised to see just how much sugar there is in everything you eat...I try to stay clean and not eat preservatives...I'm doing better, and hope this COUNTRY JOE bunch can give me the support that I need!

GAP

[Chris Rob]

Hi
I'm closer to 60 than 50, and EVERYTHING is slower, especially the thinking process...soooo slow weight loss should not be a suprise to us 'more mature' folk... but it is sure frustrating. Keep plugging away there, thats what I am doing and sooner or later something has to give... either the elastic in my knickers or the fat beneath my skin......preferably the later... getting a bit long in tooth the the former!!!!

[jude]

Just wanted to share some good news. My Mom, who turns 82 next month, started Atkins June 14 and weighed herself this morning for the first time--10 pounds gone in 9 days!

judy

[scottjan]

Does this prove we are never too old to lose!!!!

Tell your Mom congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

She is doing much better than I did.

[jude]

Damn straight! IMHO, there's no "easy" age to lose weight. When I think of all the times in my 20's and 30's when I starved while eating food I hate, only to gain everything back....was that supposed to be an "easy" age to lose weight? Could'a fooled me!

In comparison, low carb is a breeze. Sure, the weight loss is slow, but who cares? The food is great and I know I can do this forever.

Thanks for the congrats, Scottjan,,,,I'll pass the word along to my Mom. She doesn't have a computer, so she's missing the forum support. She's already convinced one neighbour to try low carb.

judy

[scottjan]

Hi Jude,

I was so busy thinking about your mom that I overlooked the fact that you have been very, very successful with lcing. Many congratulations to you too.

Some day I hope to add to my success, but for now I have slowed to a crawl and then a standstill.

[jude]

Thanks, Scottjan!

These days I know exactly what you mean about "slow". I lost 40 lbs in the first 5 months, but only 13 in the last 6 months. Can't seem to get my carbs above 30 w/o gaining and now that my weight is down, I also have to watch the calories--it's pretty easy to go over 10x with the kind of food I've come to enjoy (like butter and whipping cream) on this woe.

Congratulations on your loss so far! You're doing great! Don't worry about slowing down. It happens to everyone. I think "stalling" is the most popular subject on this forum.

I think the worst thing is not knowing why we've stalled. It's simple (if not easy) to fix something if you know why it's "broke". For me, I know its a combination of not keeping track of the food and a major procrastination with exercise.

judy

[Chris Rob]

Hi Jude!


I thought Cals were not important on LO-Carb , so perhaps that is one of the reasons I am in a major stall... five weeks ....nothing.... a gain if anything. anyway, how many cals should one be eating? I am in the process of comming off HRT so am hoping that will help. Are you checking Ketones? I find it really difficult to stay in the "pink" even though I am still not eating more than 20 carbs a day ( I have a carb counter, so Im micro-managing)

[jude]

Hi Chris,

You're right, we don't usually worry about calories, but if they do become an issue, it's usually because we aren't eating enough. There's no hard and fast rule, but generally you should be eating 10 to 12 times your current weight. There's a thread in the Newbies section under "Hot Links" about this.

Are you recording at Fitday? When I first started low carbing, I was surprised to discover that I was only eating 900 calories a day once I got rid of all the high carb food.

I'm no expert, but another possibility in your case is that you don't have much to lose. It seems the fewer pounds you need to lose, the slower the rate of loss.

I've never bothered worrying about ketones--the scales are enough of an obsession for me!

Hang in there!

judy

[Chris Rob]

jude
looking back, I may have been bit low on cals..I think! somewhere in the range of 1000 -1700 a couple of days lower. I weigh 155 and should be at 140, so I do have 15 to lose, however not so concerned if it takes a while, just dont want to gain. I thought if you cut cals, weight came off, how come its different when LC-ing

[jude]

Hi Chris,

Don't quote me on the science, but basically we need a certain number of calories to avoid going into starvation mode--that's when your body hangs on to the weight. Here's a link to an earlier thread in "Hot Links" that explains it better.

http://forum.lowcarber.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=302541#post302541

I just know that time after time here, I've seen posts from people who increase their calories and start losing again. I suspect you're feeling the same way I did in the beginning, but that's the old brainwashing. Honest! Eating fat is a good thing.

judy

[jude]

Hi Chris,

Here's a link where you can calculate your BMR.

http://www.healthyontario.com/english/health_tools/calc_bmr.asp?channel_id=4&text_id=240

Judy

[Chris Rob]

Thanks Judy

I am going to up those pesky cals to 1600 and see what happens
this woe is a deal better than WW etc etc etc

Appreciate yore support

[penelope]

http://www.radiantrecovery.com/soy4303html.htm

Many of us were seduced by the claims that soy is the all-powerful solution to hormone shifts. And we had a lot of it. Soy powder in shakes, soy lattes, soymilk as an alternative to dairy, soy cheese, edame at the sushi store, tofu quick and easy. We started getting a little tubbier; we felt that our metabolism wasn't quite right. We had tests and nothing showed but we knew something was operating. From what I have read, overuse of soy can certainly contribute to many of these subtle concerns we have had.

I read a lot more on this site

:nono:Pene

[Morgan1974]

I'm not sure where to post this; please move it, moderator, if there is a more appropriate place.

I am almost 60 years old, and it is so much slower to lose weight on this WOE than it was when I first tried it in 1973. There are probably a variety of reasons (retired now and much more sendentary, the "diet" has evolved into something which allows a good many more vegetables, etc) but some of it MUST have to do with the fact that my metabolism has changed a lot in the past 30 years.

So I would l especially like to hear from folks who are closer to my age (as well as ANYONE on these boards). I will settle for anyone who has a Country Joe and The Fish album somewhere in their closet. Heck, I will settle for anyone who even knows who
Country Joe is!

Kay

<font color="brown"><B>Well, I'm not sure who "Country Joe" is, but "I was country, when country wasn't cool" if that counts. :wiggle:

Also, I am going on 60 and, YES, it is much harder to lose weight as this age! I used to have to eat like a truck driver to maintain my weight, now I have to eat like a sparrow to keep from LOOKING like a truck driver! (No offense to truck drivers!)

Moderation, Exercise, Moderation, Exercise, Moderation, Exercise.....that is my mantra! Atkins is the first WOE that has allowed me to lose weight so I'm pretty excited about it. Now if my recent boo boo would heal so I could get back to exercising, I'd be a happy camper!

Oh, I guess I got off course. Yes, there is someone else on here almost 60! Howdy!! :lol:

Morgan :yay:

[TarHeel]

Welcome, Morgan---Nice to hear from you. After reading your post in the comments about the new board format, I sent you a private message. I'm hoping you know how to open one of those! At any rate, you sound like you're about in the same place as I am in navigating around in here. I'm no more lost with the new features than I was with the old ones....but I really like some of the things they have added. For example, I can now use the quote feature properly (though may forget how by tomorrow) and I can now use the smilies. And do you see this purple?

It looks as though you have been more successful "navigating" your weight loss....very nice stats indeed. Boy, there are a lot of folks from Seattle in this forum. Some of my favorite members are Seattlites (if that is the term).

Wishing you continued success to your goal,
Kay

[Auburn2932]

Guess I'm the really old one in here. I am 71. I've been on Atkins since the day after Easter this year, so far I've lost about 9-10 lbs, it varys on days. Very slow going for me. I am VERY active, walk dog twice a day, do all our yard work, mowing etc. go to a health club and lift weights and use machines, have been swimming every day since it has gotten hot also, also use a Tony Little walking machine. Very very hard for me to lost any weight, have battled with it all my life, At one time after I had my second son, I weighted 201 lbs. that was the heaviest I've ever been though. My weight for the past 20 or more years stays about 145. I'd like to be 129! Would be ideal for me, hope someday I;ll make it.

[Morgan1974]

Welcome, Morgan---Nice to hear from you. After reading your post in the comments about the new board format, I sent you a private message. I'm hoping you know how to open one of those! At any rate, you sound like you're about in the same place as I am in navigating around in here. I'm no more lost with the new features than I was with the old ones....but I really like some of the things they have added. For example, I can now use the quote feature properly (though may forget how by tomorrow) and I can now use the smilies. And do you see this purple?

It looks as though you have been more successful "navigating" your weight loss....very nice stats indeed. Boy, there are a lot of folks from Seattle in this forum. Some of my favorite members are Seattlites (if that is the term).

Wishing you continued success to your goal,
Kay

<font color="brown"><B> Hi!! Yes, I did receive your private message and answered it immediately. I hope you received it because, like I said before, I just kind of click my way around; not quite sure what I'm doing.

It looks like we're about the same weight also. I'm kind of having a problem right now. I have been faithfully exercising everyday for about 3 weeks and was seeing the results already. Then I had a freak accident and hurt my tailbone, hip and leg. The doctor said I have to take it easy for a few weeks! Well, if I stop exercising now I'm afraid I'll never get back to it! Very frustrating! I do the "Walk Away The Pounds" tape and really like it. Hopefully, I can get back to it soon!

Thanks for the private message. It's nice to know others my age who are having the same struggles. It's so frustrating to me because I never had a weight problem until I quit smoking and started antidepressants; POW!! 30 pounds weight gain immediately! That's the weight I'm trying to get off now. I'm sorry to say I started smoking again (shame on me) and I'm proud to say I gave up the antidepressants. Who needs them? I feel great now! I haven't lost all the weight, but feel so much better, I know I'll make it....eventually.

Best of luck with your goals too! This menopause really makes it difficult, too. Let's face it...we women just flat get a raw deal all the way around. Grrrrrrrr

Talk to you later!
Morgan :yay:

[Bart]

: :)
HI
This looks like a great form, I turned 61 this year , and yes
the pounds seem to be comeing off slow, only about10#
so far. I'm not sure ,because i didn't weigh myself right away
when i started.
I did take my measurements in the beginning though and
as of today i've lost 9.5''
Bart : : :roll:

[Chris Rob]

Hi Bart

Sounds like you are doing great... good reduction, I am still struggling, but feel so good, dont really care too much anymore.. it will happen over time, ty

[rainopal]

I remember Country Joe and The Fish and the First Woodstock, and I'm even older than you are. How about Canned Heat? So glad I found your thread. Its encouraging to find others my age who are also finding it is harder to lose than when we were younger.
Lets just keep on encouraging one another and we'll make it. I read a posting on another board that inspired me. "Slow progress sure beats having things get steadily worse."

[scottjan]

Hi Rainopal,

"Slow progress sure beats having things get steadily worse."

That's a great quote; one that I will try to remember when I am feeling down!

[zandria72]

Hi Tarheel! Hey, I'm 30, and I know who Country Joe is! LOL

I'm just putting in a shameless plug for my mom who recently joined the site and has been lamenting about how few people have visited her journal. Her handle here is Lensesplus -- maybe you can con her into stopping in here. :)

[katrine77]

It's been a while since I've posted, but I've checked in a few times. I have a question for all you post menopausal women.
I seem to have just now really started to skip periods which means, from what I understand, that I am smack-dab in menopause.
Been in perimenopause for years, noticing many changes in menstruation, but never skipped one.
Everything I read says "expect to gain weight' during this time. This is so discourageing to me, cuz, I have spent my whole life being overweight and now, with this WOE, I am finally really LOSING weight/inches and feel great! I can't believe that I will be GAINING now that menopause has hit. I am also wondering if that might contribute to long stalls..... like the natural weight gain of menopause is being cancelled out by this WOE and vice versa. Which means...homeostasis! EEK! I hope I am way off on this. I would love to hear from others.

Also, I wanted to share with you all that I have been using herbs to counteract night sweats and hot flashes. Started having them pretty bad about 3 months ago, and since taking herbal tinctures regularly,I haven't had ANY night sweats and the hot flashes are barely noticeable adn usually occur after I eat something spicy or sip a glass of wine.

kathy :yay:

[Chris Rob]

Hi Katrine77

I really dont believe that menopause necessary means weight gain, it may be a fine excuse for many of us. I have been on HRT and have , this week, finally weaned off them so I could be eating my words in the next month or so, though I was told that HRT causes weight gain.. so who knows. What I do know is that weight loss for me is tediously slow, and that could be linked to age and menopause. but I feel so much better that I look better so the wol works. Havnt had any bad hot flashes yet, but just in case, what herbs are you taking? anyway, good luck with everything, I am sure you will sail through the whole thing and still lose weight albeit a little slower!

[katrine77]

Hi chrisee
I purchased tincture of motherwort and a tincture of chaste tree berry. But so far, I have only used the motherwort. My daughter is studying herbs and says that the tincture (herbs in an alcohol base) is much more effective then capsules, tea or pills.

I had a night of sweating back in May where I was waking up every 30 min with a sweat, kicking all the blankets off till I cooled down, covering up again only to have it start all over again. I wouldn't have minded so much except that I was losing sleep!

I started taking a dropperfull of motherwort before bed and upon waking in the morning. (under the tongue...and it tastes pretty bad so keep your water bottle nearby!). Within a few days, it all stopped! And no hot flashes during the day!

Now I only take it at bedtime. Still no hot flashes or sweats! Knock on wood!

And thanks for the encouragement and advice. You are sooooo right about the feeling better and looking better because of that. I have been getting the same results here, I feel great most of the time and I get compliments all the time now....and not about weight loss....just about 'glowing' and looking good.

Good luck with going off the HRT. I hope you have the same luck with the herbs that I have had so far.

Kathy :wiggle:

[Morgan1974]

Hi Katrine77

I really dont believe that menopause necessary means weight gain, it may be a fine excuse for many of us.

Unfortuneately, Menopause does mean weight gain in the stomach; there is plently of research to back it up. However, you can exercise, do crunches and eat properly and keep it in check. If you don't, it will definitely take residency around your middle. Now, whether you gain all over with menopause, I've never heard of that so I can't say. But if you don't want that menopausal belly, you better get used to eating properly and exercising. That's just a fact. :agree:

[TarHeel]

Hi Folks: I didn't respond to this at first, as I went through menopause at age 40 and had almost no bad effects as far as hot flashes, etc. And as I have gained and lost weight so many times in my life, it is hard to blame it on any one factor. (Other than eating too damn much for my height and exercise habits!)

However, I think Morgan may be correct about the increased weight moving to the belly. I am the same weight now that I was in 1989, and then I could wear my test jeans quite comfortably. I can wear them now, even zip them up and sit down and still breathe.....but they are definitely not comfortable over a period of time wearing them.

In fact, I wore them for about six hours the other day, and the next day it seemed as though I had "bruised" my stomach.....Oh, well. Ain't life fun?

Kay

[joizienew]

Hi everyone, how do I join here. I am 63 and just moved to Tennessee. I could use some people to talk to that are around my age bracket. I started the protein diet about three weeks ago and so far the problem of constipation is being worked on. I also started exercising, walking in the a.m and going to a fitness center twice a week. My energy level has increased and I'm feeling really good. I've lost about 7 pounds so far, but my body is looking much better. It's no doubt the combination of low carbs and exercise. I am not so bloated. Please respond anyone....

[Morgan1974]

Hi everyone, how do I join here. I am 63 and just moved to Tennessee. I could use some people to talk to that are around my age bracket. I started the protein diet about three weeks ago and so far the problem of constipation is being worked on. I also started exercising, walking in the a.m and going to a fitness center twice a week. My energy level has increased and I'm feeling really good. I've lost about 7 pounds so far, but my body is looking much better. It's no doubt the combination of low carbs and exercise. I am not so bloated. Please respond anyone....

It looks like you have already joined. I didn't think you could post unless you were a member. I could be wrong, though, it wouldn't be the first time! LOL Welcome and good luck! Yes, constipation is sometimes a problem with me, too. Not exactly sure why because it's only now and then. Maybe not enough fiber; maybe too much. Dunno! :rolleyes: Well, I guess I wasn't much help, was I? Again, welcome!

Morgan :yay:

[joizienew]

thanks for the welcome. I guess I am in. I have just started the fiber supplement and think that I will be OK, (that is as soon as I get over the consequences of the laxitive I took) I am looking forward to coming here daily to exchange ideas, etc.

[Chris Rob]

Actually, you are probably right about the belly fat..this is the hardest area for me to lose weight, but I do think the old menopause is an excuse for lots of us to give up the battle of the bulge... and what about those featherless bat wings that have taken the place of my arms.. where the hell did they come from?

[TarHeel]

Chris: Those bat wings did not come from me: I still have mine.

Kay

[TarHeel]

Joisynew: I posted to you in your journal.

Kay

[joizienew]

Oh chrisee, how I hate those flappy flabby things that are hangin down under my upper arms. I don't really see them often but I'm sure others do. I have just started going to a fitness center and working out. I wonder if anything I do will affect those little monsters.

[joizienew]

I am also having some hot flashes since I stopped the estrogen therapy. (currently no insurance so I had to stop all medications) I would like to try the motherwort if I can find it. I had a great breakfast this a.m. due to finding low carb bread. I was able to have one slice of toast with my egg, (only 7 carbs per slice) It made all the difference. The bread is called 'Nature's Own' and I fouind it at Super Fresh Grocery Store. It's real bread, (not like the low carb stuff I made in the past). On the bread wrapper is a web site www.naturesownbread.com

[Chris Rob]

Kay


you are too funny!!!

[Chris Rob]

joizienew

I have been working out for about a month now, and do see a liitle reduction in the bat wings... not a marked inprovement though... think sleeves is probably the only acceptable solution. Who was it who coined the term "Golden years"? someone with a sick sense of humor, or worse yet someone who hadn't reached them yet,I bet.

Off to buy some Natures own bread. sounds like heaven- a slice of bread.
Is this what it comes down to? happyness - a slice of bread!!

[joizienew]

I had to jump on and add this. Today when I was walking in the park, (I carry 3lb bar-bells when I walk to help out with the upper body and arms) well, anyway, a guy was passing me and stopped to say, "wow, those are really big bar-bells". I replied, "thanks, and there getting even bigger since I started carrying these 3lb weights around." It was great to have a laugh, I gave myself a pat on the back for being brave enough to take a risk with a perfect stranger.

[joizienew]

I have to admit that this morning, in place of sex, drugs and rock and roll, a slice of toast with my egg was the untimate thrill.

[Morgan1974]

Actually, you are probably right about the belly fat..this is the hardest area for me to lose weight, but I do think the old menopause is an excuse for lots of us to give up the battle of the bulge... and what about those featherless bat wings that have taken the place of my arms.. where the hell did they come from?

All I know is when it's 20 below in the winter and everyone is in heavy coats, hats and gloves, and I'm sitting around in a T-shirt fanning myself with my "fertility" fan (as I call it), and the sweat is running down my face....it's difficult to blame it on anything BUT menopause; that's no excuse, it's reality for me. :lol:

As far as the bat wings go, SO FAR I've escaped that but do not believe those are connected to menopause in any way. However, I do lift weights everyday (light ones) and that may keep the arms in check. But hey, if I develop "bat wings" in time, I'll just count myself lucky and FLY south to visit my family! :angel:

Morgan :yay:

[joizienew]

Yeah! I finally got a picture where I wanted it. Couldn't make it any bigger but at least it's there. Thanks for all your help everyone.

[joizienew]

Hi everyone, I have been working out at a fitness center at my work. (it's free to staff) I even have a personal trainer. Now I am wondering what I will look like with muscles. I really want to tone up and lifting the weights helps my Fibromyalgia pain, but I'm big boned to start with and I am having scary pictures in my head of being a big muscular freak. Wow, I'm I anxiety ridden or what! I can always find something to worry about. My trainer says muscles look good. So now I'm trying to turn off my own head and just pump iron. Oh, and I'm winning the battle of the constipation saga.

[scottjan]

Good for you joizienew!

I just bet working out makes you feel much better. Muscle does look much better than flab which is what I have plenty of. Keep with the program and enjoy looking great.

[Morgan1974]

Hi everyone, I have been working out at a fitness center at my work. (it's free to staff) I even have a personal trainer. Now I am wondering what I will look like with muscles. I really want to tone up and lifting the weights helps my Fibromyalgia pain, but I'm big boned to start with and I am having scary pictures in my head of being a big muscular freak. Wow, I'm I anxiety ridden or what! I can always find something to worry about. My trainer says muscles look good. So now I'm trying to turn off my own head and just pump iron. Oh, and I'm winning the battle of the constipation saga.

Hi, again, Jozie! You were saying earlier that you didn't think you registered. Well, because you were able to post, I thought you had. But now I just noticed that under your name it says "contributing" member instead of "registered" member, so now I'm not sure if you're registered or not. I've never noticed that before.

I wouldn't worry to much about turning into Arnold Schwarzeneiger! Most women can't even build those kind of muscles. We have "feminine" muscles and they do look good. Sounds like you're doing good and a trainer is a great idea. Wish I could afford one! Good luck!

Morgan :yay:

[Morgan1974]

I was able to have one slice of toast with my egg, (only 7 carbs per slice) It made all the difference. The bread is called 'Nature's Own' and I fouind it at Super Fresh Grocery Store. It's real bread, (not like the low carb stuff I made in the past).

I tried some of that "low carb" bread from Trader Joe's (3 carbs per slice). I think I would rather eat kitty litter! I went to Safeway and bought Oroweat Light...it's only 5 1/2 grams a slice. I love it and you can buy it anywhere! I missed my bread. I still don't eat to much of it, though. :nono:

[joizienew]

Yes, I missed my bread in the morning with breakfast. Other than that I don't mind doing without. I will check out the Orowheat light. The stuff I got is 7 carbs per slice, but I can't really tell the difference between it and regular high carb bread. That's a good thing. I became a contributing member by paying $15 dollars. I think it just means that I am a member who donated some money to the cost of running the show. I don't know for sure as yet.

[KoKo]

Hi Everyone

I didn't read all the way back on this thread, somehow caught it by accident. But from the few I've read I feel peolple longing for bread and also in my age group - I'm 48 - quit smoking in December 2002 and gained 20lbs within a month - NEVER quit smoking when the house is stocked with turkey stuffing, nanaimo bars, 12 year old cheddar and after eights :rolleyes: I've never gained weight like that before and never been able to not lose before - I kinda lived my life by the 3 pound rule - if you get more than 3 pounds over your ideal weight then control what you eat till you lose it - at times I even took it too far so as to be underweight. I am one who extremely lo carb dosent work for (although it did in the past - when Atkins first came out I was right on it and Stillman and did lose about a pound a day - but I was in my teens and early twenties then) The thing I missed most though was BREAD, I'm still doing lo carb - though compared to Atkins SPII is better described as controlled carb. I've found a bread that is 13 carbs and about 112 calories 4 grms fibre for two slices. In Canada it's sold as "President's Choice To Good To Be True Bran Bread. It's a small loaf in a green and white wrapper - Loblaws, Independant, Super Stores all carry PC products - and from what I read in the flyers I think that the same products are available in the US but I don't know for sure . If not some carefull label reading might turn up a similar product. I might sound strange to you but this bread saves my life - I can do without sugar, do without fat, do without protein but CAN'T live without a sandwich once in a while. (tho since I found this bread I admit I have them more often - skinny little sandwiches yes but still it's somehting you can hold in your hand and dig into)

[Morgan1974]

I became a contributing member by paying $15 dollars. I think it just means that I am a member who donated some money to the cost of running the show. I don't know for sure as yet.

Oh, that must be what it means. Well, now I feel cheap because I didn't contribute nuttin', honey! :lol: You'll like the Oroweat...it takes just like regular bread (even though I prefer white). I don't really miss the bread except for hamburgers and hot dogs. I do buy 100% whole wheat buns but still won't eat those very often. Bread in general slows down my weight loss. It's mostly a treat for me. :cry:

Morgan

[joizienew]

Well, this week was payday for me and I was feeling generous.
I am happy having just one slice of bread a day, in the morning with an egg, and at just 7 carbs per slice I don't feel as if I am shooting myself in the foot. I have tried to make my own low carb bread in the past using Atkins powder and it was pretty horrible. So I'm enjoying this new stuff.

[J.J.]

County Joe and The Fish! Yes, indeedy!!! I'm 50 and the DH is 52! I think it is harder to lose as you get older, especially if you've been on meds!

I didn't have time to read thru all the posts, but I wanted to pop in and say "Hello!" My mother just turned 76 and would like to get her doing the Atkins WOE. She has Type II Diabetes and is eating all the wrong stuff. She initially dropped 40 lbs when first diagnosed, but the weight is creeping back up on her. She thinks I'm crazy for doing this diet, she says it's dangerous. I'd rather do this than end up where she's at right now!! I can't even convince her to read the book!

O-well!!!

[shalizbet]

Hi to all. I, too, just found this thread. Just registered, will be 56 in a few weeks, and have struggled with many of the same issues. My experience with MP is that exercise really helps control the flame-on syndrome. My sympathies to those with injuries and health problems which interfere with exercise programs. I went into severe withdrawal when an attack of plantar fasciaitis (pain in the arch and heel of the foot) stopped my walking program. That's also why I'm back to heavy-duty (maybe not the best modifier) LCing after a year or so of maintaining a very good weight for me. I seem to be doing somewhat better with the foot problem and am walking again----carefully---so as not to end up back in trouble again. As for the loose skin and wrinkles: my theory is that you should cover the loose skin with the snug lower-size clothing you can now wear and forget about it. Smiling through the wrinkles is my solution to those. And when I ask myself whether I want to fill up the wrinkles again the answer is a definite "No!" Good luck to all on this thread. Thanks to Tarheel for starting it! :rose:

[geo53562]

Hi folks. I not only remember Country Joe MacDonald, but I saw him play in Golden Gate Park back in 1967. As I recall, Quicksilver Messenger Service was the first band that afternoon.

I'm a 56 y.o. male. I've been lucky so far...I'm in 10th week of my diet, and had dropped 40 pounds by the end of the 9th week. (I only weigh myself once a week...any more often and I'd make myself crazy!) I spend a few minutes on a rowing machine 5 days a week...which is more for my back than my diet.

I did Atkins back in the late 70's, and lost 80 pounds then...if I recall correctly, it took me about 7-8 months. I'm really curious to see how long it will take me to lose 80 pounds this time. Unfortunately, I'll still have another 55-60 to go after that happens. This is obviously gonna take a while...but lo-carb is the only kind of diet I've ever done that works for me at all!

[joizienew]

Welcome Geo...I never saw Country Jo but it's not that I'm not old enough. I also did Atkins a few years ago and lost all the weight I wanted to. I don't know why exactly I stopped and returned to 'low fat', but I think it was just that I needed a change after one year. Of course I immediately gained weight and went around all day feeling deprived and hungry. Now I am more serious about making low carbing a life style and I am exercising along with eating some carbs and making sure I get fiber. I think low carbing is like AA/NA, you're in it for life.

[joizienew]

Hey Shali, I too am walking nearly every morning and loving the meditation and the beautiful scenery. I found two 3lb bar bells at the thrift store, and I carry them as I walk. I move them around and do different things with them. It really works my arms and stressed muscles accross my shoulders, but it also makes walking more interesting as I change my routine around. I am not really focused on weight loss, only about 10 or 15 lbs is my goal, but my over all body health is a concern. I'm 63 and life just keeps getting better every day so I want to stick around as long as I can.

[penelope]

bump along

[Chris Rob]

joizienew

Have you tried the progesterone creams that are out there, they are a pretty good way of helping with the hot flashes, so I've heard. I have been off HRT for two weeks now and am not really having bad flashes and am sleeping better - how lucky is that!

[joizienew]

Yes, I did have progesterone cream by perscription in the past. They are very expensive and now I don't have insurance. I tried over the counter pills that were supposed to help with hot flashes, but I started getting a lot of headaches again so I stopped it. What progesterone creams are you referring to? I used Premarin Vaginal Cream. About $60 a tube.

[J.J.]

joizienew

Have you tried the progesterone creams that are out there, they are a pretty good way of helping with the hot flashes, so I've heard. I have been off HRT for two weeks now and am not really having bad flashes and am sleeping better - how lucky is that!

Wow! You are extremely lucky! I've been off mine for a month now and supplementing with Boron and multivitamins and it seems to be helping me sleep better, but the hot flashes are still on and off! I'd rather have a few extra hot moments than a lifetime of no energy due to excess weight! Choices............life is full of so many choices!!!! :lol:

[MizSteaks]

Good morning all you Fit, Fiesty and over Fifty people! I found you by following joizienew over here. Watch out Joyce! I'm after you! LOL!

Just wanted to inivite all of you over to the Elders Lounge to help with our 'remodel' of that sub-forum. It is supposed to be for 'us', but is terribly under-utilized for now. If we work together, we can turn it into a great spot to discuss problems that pertain mainly to OUR age group. The first order of business is maybe choosing a better name for it since few of us feel 'Elder'!! LOL!

See ya There!
Nance

[joizienew]

Hey Nance, thanks for the tip, I'm on my way over there right now. (then I gotta shower for work)

[Morgan1974]

Yes, I did have progesterone cream by perscription in the past. They are very expensive and now I don't have insurance. I tried over the counter pills that were supposed to help with hot flashes, but I started getting a lot of headaches again so I stopped it. What progesterone creams are you referring to? I used Premarin Vaginal Cream. About $60 a tube.

Joizienew......

There is a Progesterone Cream that is NOT prescription. We have it at our local health food store (not a chain; privately owned). However, I have not tried it but I'm certain is was not anywhere near $60.00. You might check that out at your local health stores.

Morgan :yay:

[joizienew]

Thanks, I will look for it.

[Chris Rob]

joizienew

If you are prepared to give me yr postal address, (perhaps on the buddy thing that I am not sure how it works) I will send a couple of unused tubs of natural progestrogine cream I havn't needed. I know what not having health insurance is like... didnt have for the first ten years that I was in this country... had to go back to the UK if I got really sick... anyway let me know if you are interested

[Chris Rob]

Heh Nance

off to try & find the 'elder's lounge, sounds like it should be fun. if you dont see a posting it means I got lost on the hyper highway... us oldies, you know!!!!

[TexLady]

Hi! I'm 54 and glad to have found this forum. This is my second time to follow a low carb woe. So far the experience has been positive.

[Lyda Rose]

1, 2, 3, What are we fighting for? Yep, I remember Country Joe and the Fish! I am 53, in fact, It is 2:07 in the morning here and I just turned 53 a couple of hours ago. I am a bag of hormones with a hair sticking out the top! Look out, here comes another hot flash!

I started Atkins on 3/24/03. I had been on it in the 70s but decided I would give it another try. My weight came from years of skipping breakfast and lunch, then having a reasonable dinner, but still gaining weight. Metabolism Mayhem!

I used to drink a lot of coffee and diet cokes. I have traded that for 5 quarts of water a day or more. Some Iced Tea and a cup of decaf on occasion.

I am so depressed about my weight loss, or lack thereof. I lost about 20 pounds in the first three months of induction. I weighed once a week and the scales fluxuated wildly up and down. Then I started weighin every day for a while and was so shocked, I have put the scales in the basement and hope they don't find their way back up stairs. For several weeks, I would go down to 210 and then back up to 237 overnight. All I had eaten was the induction food and I was watching my calories as well.

I am stumped because I have been so faithful to the diet. I don't have cravings and my worse problem is just making myself eat. I just don't want any food at all, but I open another can of tuna, have another boiled eat or a bit of salad and try to make myself get all my food in several tiny meals a day.

I bought some Ketosis strips a month ago due to my depression about the not losing weight thingy. What do you know? I am never in Ketosis!

I talked to Atkins Center and they advised me to try the "Fat Fast". Lots of people thing that is a bad idea, but I faithfully had 1/4 avocado with a teaspoon of mayo and a teaspoon of tuna four times a day and a deviled egg in the mornings. I didn't lose an ounce. I didn't go into ketosis.

I keep thinking I am being visited by plagues or something. I really just came here looking for solace from all of use "Maxine" types! PLEASE encourage me! LoL Goodnight

[Morgan1974]

I don't have cravings and my worse problem is just making myself eat. I just don't want any food at all, but I open another can of tuna, have another boiled eat or a bit of salad and try to make myself get all my food in several tiny meals a day.

I talked to Atkins Center and they advised me to try the "Fat Fast". Lots of people thing that is a bad idea, but I faithfully had 1/4 avocado with a teaspoon of mayo and a teaspoon of tuna four times a day and a deviled egg in the mornings. I didn't lose an ounce. I didn't go into ketosis.

I keep thinking I am being visited by plagues or something. I really just came here looking for solace from all of use "Maxine" types! PLEASE encourage me! LoL Goodnight

It sounds to me as if possibly you're not eating enough food. If I had 1/4 avocado w/mayo and a teaspoon of tuna 4 times a day and a deviled egg, my metabolism would come to a screeching halt! I used to skip breakfast and lunch and eat a reasonable dinner, too (before Atkins), and I kept gaining weight. It wasn't until I added more calories that I started losing. We have NO metabolism at our age anyway (I'll be 59 in a week), so we don't want to allow our bodies to think we're starving, or they'll quit burning fat entirely!

Now everyone is different, so this not be your situation; I'm just speaking for myself here. Are you under Doctor's care? Are you taking a lot or any prescription drugs? Drugs, such as; diabetes, anti-depressants, HRT, high blood pressure, etc., all play a part in making it very difficult to burn fat!

Other than that, I'm at a loss as to why you're not losing and why you're not in ketosis. Sorry I couldn't be more help. Just don't give up. Someone will have an answer for you, I'm sure.

Good Luck! :agree:

[Lyda Rose]

Hi Morgan, thanks for your kind words. It is just nice to know that there are others who are in the same place with this diet.

No, I am on no medication whatsoever, just vitamins, minerals (love that Potassium - stops those leg cramps!) and Glucosimine/Condroitin to make sure my knees and joints keep working.

I have emailed the Atkins people a lot and they were the ones who encouraged me to try that fat fast. I said that it didn't help and it didn't help me lose weight, but it sure did one thing for me - I made me sooooo Happy to be back on induction which was like a dream to me after being on that Fat Fast!

Yes, I am under a Doctor's care. I have had a complete blood workup. One of the main reasons I chose Atkins was that my Mother and Grandmother both have diabetes. I don't want to have to deal with that, so I opted for eating right now and making it a life time thing before I get diabetes and have to do it because of that.

Atkins assures me that although Exercise is really great and recommended, the Atkins plan should work whether you exercise or not. You might lose weight and not be toned, but you WILL lose weight.

I am just hoping that my back injury will get better and allow me to do more than just lurching around behind a shopping cart and sitting on my rump at the office.

Thanks so much for your reply. Hold a kind thoght for me and my thighs - I don't want them to catch afire from rubbing together one day while I am hiking up the stairs!
:o)

[Chris Rob]

Hi Lydia

I am in much th